Lippa Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 I most definate would not paint it its perfect the way it is and if its been treated let the weather do the job "Stunning Loft " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 Went to Spencer Coating today collected the Dandy Dons MicroFlex RED and WHITE paint also got grey FloorCote non slip decking paint for the floor You will be busy when I get it down to you Cheers Archie Ian Ps good choice of colours they said if you use a high gloss clear varnish the birds will see it from the race point so got that as well :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Dina you listen to them Archie keep up the good work get it painted DANDY DONS RED & WHITE PsRead the advice on gloss varnish :emoticon-0136-giggle: :drinking-coffee-200: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Dina you listen to them Archie keep up the good work get it painted DANDY DONS RED & WHITE PsRead the advice on gloss varnish :emoticon-0136-giggle: :drinking-coffee-200: its either that or Bum bee Tartan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted June 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 loft when built as you see wood was treated, wood now, after rain and inside walls soaking, wood now, as you see on left still some of the treatment this was the problem, and i was told I should have painted it, so hopefully all ok now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippa Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 If wood is treated it should not need painted "Ask any joiner" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) If wood is treated it should not need painted "Ask any joiner" Your very correct. MKM KIRKCALDY is not going to be used again, as they have sold an inferior product which doesn't do what its supposed to do. Im awaiting an answer for the Manager, to see what his take is. Archie has been let down, quite rightly so, as I've been let down, and i will be doing all i can to help rectify it, and very soon. All previous timber has been purchased from MGM Glenrothes, and never had any issues. MKM states its only treated against rot and wood bourne insects???? and not weather. False advertising there then, as "treated" would suggest its weather proof. They're recommendation is to treat the wood straight away. I wont fall for that one again, lesson learnt :-( Edited June 7, 2017 by alex wight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted June 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Your very correct. MKM KIRKCALDY is not going to be used again, as they have sold an inferior product which doesn't do what its supposed to do. Im awaiting an answer for the Manager, to see what his take is. Archie has been let down, quite rightly so, as I've been let down, and i will be doing all i can to help rectify it, and very soon. All previous timber has been purchased from MGM Glenrothes, and never had any issues. MKM states its only treated against rot and wood bourne insects???? and not weather. False advertising there then, as "treated" would suggest its weather proof. They're recommendation is to treat the wood straight away. I wont fall for that one again, lesson learnt :-( good to read your post Alex and thanks, just a pity you weren't in that frame of mind when at my place this morning ,so hopefully we get this sorted now and put to bed, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingziemckay Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 treated wood,is classed as treated to prevent rot and insects,not weatherproof,i was told this when my loft was builti had to paint it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 As i said on the phone call, get the paint, i,ll pay for it and get your loft painted, free off charge off course. Ive been let done badly with this product, but never want to see my customers let down. So again once you have the paint, give me a call and i,ll get along and get it completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted June 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 ok will go down 2 moro and have a look at , as the loft is drying out i have had the doors open all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 ok will go down 2 moro and have a look at , as the loft is drying out i have had the doors open all day As advised before Archie Dandy Dons Red & White will doo the trick :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted June 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 As advised before Archie Dandy Dons Red & White will doo the trick :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: better with Bum bee Tatran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 As advised before Archie Dandy Dons Red & White will doo the trick :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: better with Bum bee Tatran Just think where the doos come from much more comfortable with my suggestion :drinking-coffee-200: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aye ready Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 It's protiim that the timber has been treated with the yellow colouring is just a dye which fades with time but the timber will still be pressure treated wither the chemical, a good coat of wood preservative will do it fine,me personally I'd go with sadolin expensive tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted June 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 It's protiim that the timber has been treated with the yellow colouring is just a dye which fades with time but the timber will still be pressure treated wither the chemical, a good coat of wood preservative will do it fine,me personally I'd go with sadolin expensive tho yes its just the weather now got paint for it but with today's rain its inside walls are soaked again inside, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 As i said on the phone call, get the paint, i,ll pay for it and get your loft painted, free off charge off course. Ive been let done badly with this product, but never want to see my customers let down. So again once you have the paint, give me a call and i,ll get along and get it completed. got the paint loft got 2 coats by Alex, but afraid its still not working, joints opening up etc , so really thinking about packing it in, was hoping to start with old birds but didnt get the loft finished on time then set on young birds but not like it, this has been going on for too long , Alex is on holiday for 2 week so says he cant do anything for 2-3 weeks, he is admitting above its been a bad product and wont be dealing with that company again ,thats not helping me, I thought i had nothing to do but put up money for a new loft etc and all would be fine, but there you go, put up some pics of the jointsclick to enlarge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 Archie I have told you before the loft is unfit for purpose as admitted Your being strung along I have seen your loft and you need to request a loft fit for purpose or your money back Legal action may be required to resolve this At your age you do not need this but it has to be done Crafty fifer needs to man up and resolve this not keep doing or suggesting a patch up Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry0 Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 What type of wood is the tongue and grove boards made from . I worked in timber yard in Bangor for some years . Pressure treating and tanalisation does not waterproof timber . Some woods are very porous and absorb lot of water. All boards exspand and contract so joint can and will open and close . Wood boards ahould be painted with a good oil based sealer stainer to keep water out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froog Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 What type of wood is the tongue and grove boards made from . I worked in timber yard in Bangor for some years . Pressure treating and tanalisation does not waterproof timber . Some woods are very porous and absorb lot of water. All boards exspand and contract so joint can and will open and close . Wood boards ahould be painted with a good oil based sealer stainer to keep water out .Tongue and groove is no use for outside walls of a shed, they contract in dry periods of weather, even weatherboard, with much bigger overlap does this. no use blaming the product, the blame lies with who decided to use these materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted July 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 its had 4 coats of Ronseal one coat, which protects fences and sheds for up to 2 years, as on the tin, I gave it 2 coats but didnt work Alex gave it 2 coats and still water coming through the joints, when the loft was put up it had a coat of something on it but this was eventually washed off , if you look at the photos in post 1 and 56 you will see the colour of whatever was on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted July 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 inside when rainingclick to enlarge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aye ready Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Archie be interesting to know if the cladding was still wet from the protium treatment when built as the timber would have been kiln dried before it was machined to this profile,then it would have been treated which would have soaked the timber again and if it was still wet when Alex built it then the natural drying process would cause it to open up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGPETE Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Hi Archie, Sorry to hear/see this. You are a good fella and no doubt don't deserve or need this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Morrison Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Nice loft he really does a great job the crafty fifer and a gentleman to talk to seen some of his stuff at shows and very good chippy by looks of it hope your new loft brings happyness and sucess ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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