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#341 User is offline   Wiley 

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 18:07 PM

View Postneila, on 21 January 2018 - 18:01 PM, said:

Hi Ryan
Are you going to turn your current old bird team to south or continue on both routes


Hello mate
12 old birds will be tried on the south that have never ever had a toss that way to just test the south road and get a feel of the differences

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 19:25 PM

Cheers Ryan
I notice the birds you are getting in are real distance birds , don't forget the Bicc have loads of 250 to 400 mile type races which could well suit your family of birds that you race north

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 20:56 PM

View Postneila, on 21 January 2018 - 19:25 PM, said:

Cheers Ryan
I notice the birds you are getting in are real distance birds , don't forget the Bicc have loads of 250 to 400 mile type races which could well suit your family of birds that you race north


100% right mate just want to try and cover all angles if possible

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 21:14 PM

It's strange when you swop birds
I changed from south to north this year and won the fed with a hen that scored many times for me south yet also had a hen that had a 3 rd and 6 th fed that never scored at all on the south and was only kept due to being paired to a decent cock and they way she was in the hand etc
Some seem to benefit from the change

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 21:31 PM

View Postneila, on 21 January 2018 - 21:14 PM, said:

It's strange when you swop birds
I changed from south to north this year and won the fed with a hen that scored many times for me south yet also had a hen that had a 3 rd and 6 th fed that never scored at all on the south and was only kept due to being paired to a decent cock and they way she was in the hand etc
Some seem to benefit from the change


Terry Haley results doing similar interested me also mate, he’ll race birds south all year then send them to a north road race and vise versa and does very well

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 21:54 PM

Very true
Be interesting to know if he trains the ybs around the clock , or on set north and south route I know he sends ybs both ways but wonder how he trains them leading into the season

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 23:06 PM

My best season on the south, they went south every 2nd week. Every other week they had a short race from the north. :)
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Posted 22 January 2018 - 11:41 AM

Watching a video he trains them on there line and just does the switch drastically

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 16:19 PM

Hi mate
Does he train south then switch them north?

When I raced south I trained my ybs south but once the birds had one south road race the following year as yearling I only went north due to the time , I never had my clock set for the inland but over the water they came well as I lived away from the loft they had a hopper of beans and three or four feeds of Gerry and fats prior to marking one year they were in the top 20 of the combine in the four water races I sent to the year before they had a 3 rd and 4 th combine. Now I have more time and race on the north I wouldn't dream of taking them to far off the line I want them to hit on race day and feed set amount twice a day and no beans after Sunday , pretty much the same pigeons

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 00:48 AM

Hi mate

Yes will be raced and trained south all year and then sent to a North Road race


Next Thursday will see me and Dad visiting Mark Bulleds loft to hopefully learn about how his transition was from north to south, and to see his fantastic family of birds

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 04:58 AM

View PostWiley, on 26 January 2018 - 00:48 AM, said:

Hi mate

Yes will be raced and trained south all year and then sent to a North Road race


Next Thursday will see me and Dad visiting Mark Bulleds loft to hopefully learn about how his transition was from north to south, and to see his fantastic family of birds



That should be good, I can't think of a better fancier than Mark

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Posted 9 February 2018 - 21:01 PM

With the blue pied from mark turning out a cock bird, the breeding plans had to take a slight change. He is now getting paired up to After Eight, as her first round she was paired with her grandsire. The son of Rainy Day Boy was paired to a full sister of the Blue Pied from Mark, that I picked up while visiting him, which I thank him for. This will give me an option of creating some sort of family of plans and results go well.

The racers are out most days weather permitting and are really putting in an effort most days flying a good 50 minutes to an hour. With the first races looming around 7th April touch wood they’ll be fit enough to train early March. Once all there young birds are weaned it will be back onto the 100% barley until the first race.

I have this year three spare cocks that I am trying something different with feeding wise. These were put into the yb section with the pipo boxes and were put in with a number of hens to chose a mate. When the first hen laid from all three pairs regardless of what position the others two were in. After 10 days sitting they all were split. These three cocks were then moved to the corridor of the widowhood section and three saddle perches were put up. They’ll be kept here until every Friday where they will move to the yb section for motivation with a number of hens to do as they please. My idea of racing these cocks is to have barley infront of them at all times also. Slightly different to how I feed normal racers. I am contemplating on racing the three pigeons on 100 barley for the first three races of there season. Especially as the distances are only 55miles 65 miles and 105 miles. These will be raced on the south. I may change this idea after reading a Steven van Bremen article on peanuts however and quiet possibly may give them as much as the require of peanuts possibly on a Thursday night, and Friday morning. It’s something I’m toying with.

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Posted 9 February 2018 - 21:16 PM

good luck Ryan , i will be interested to see the outcome :emoticon-0123-party:
"north wales novice" no longer .

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Posted 9 February 2018 - 22:50 PM

I marvel at the 50mins to an hour.....mine do 20mins.....IN THE SUMMER....some going Ryan they will be ready to rock come April

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Posted 9 February 2018 - 23:02 PM

View Postdal2, on 9 February 2018 - 22:50 PM, said:

I marvel at the 50mins to an hour.....mine do 20mins.....IN THE SUMMER....some going Ryan they will be ready to rock come April


I’ve still not mastered the art of getting pigeons to fly two hours yet tho mate :emoticon-0136-giggle:

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 23:07 PM

While the birds where out today which they flew really well I must add London had real nice day today and the birds had an extra zip in there stride it seemed, myself and Dad had a chat and we’ll be racing young birds this year 100% south road, but still stick with the plan of playing with a few old birds on the south and the north. In a partnership it’s about the compromise. Having the birds on the one route will make life easier so look forward to the new challenges south road will throw at us.

I recently bought two young birds in a phone in sale from fancier Darren McFadden so I look forward to obtain them and hopefully visiting his lofts and to find out his ways of racing and any advice he could possibly give us for the south road

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 13:48 PM

Darren and Mark are two great fanciers. You are lucky to have them in close proximity. :)
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 18:11 PM

It's nice to go and see other set-ups and maybe find some new and interesting methods to try Ryan best of luck.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 18:23 PM

View PostWiley, on 12 February 2018 - 23:07 PM, said:

While the birds where out today which they flew really well I must add London had real nice day today and the birds had an extra zip in there stride it seemed, myself and Dad had a chat and we’ll be racing young birds this year 100% south road, but still stick with the plan of playing with a few old birds on the south and the north. In a partnership it’s about the compromise. Having the birds on the one route will make life easier so look forward to the new challenges south road will throw at us.

I recently bought two young birds in a phone in sale from fancier Darren McFadden so I look forward to obtain them and hopefully visiting his lofts and to find out his ways of racing and any advice he could possibly give us for the south road


You wont go wrong if you get bird of Mark & Darren, two top fliers, & have swopped pigeon with one an other.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 19:02 PM

Be interesting how them three cocks go Ryan
Wonder if you fed the peas or beans Sunday then barley Before the peanuts or even sunflower
Will look on with interest how they go

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