dal2 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 The Gold Cup and other races 500 miles plus aren't meant to be easy, the birds that score in these races are held in the highest esteem by all of Scotland and the rest of the world, condition, health, fitness, motivation stamina, valour a great heart and mind and a good manager are what it takes to achieve this.This race is for dreamers and we all dare to dream, 550 miles into the central belt for me, roll on next season.I thought it was about getting good steady racing with good returns? ??? Well that's what was said when the race points moved east anyway! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I thought it was about getting good steady racing with good returns? ??? Well that's what was said when the race points moved east anyway! LolYes, we want good steady fair tough racing, and good returns, but even if conditions are perfect and we get a good steady race the returns are down to the birds being up to the job in the first place.Making the races easier to get better returns of sub standard birds is a step backwards, 500 plus miles is tough even if all conditions are perfect, and a large percentage of birds still won't make it. That's what make us admire the birds and fanciers that succeed at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Yes, we want good steady fair tough racing, and good returns, but even if conditions are perfect and we get a good steady race the returns are down to the birds being up to the job in the first place.Making the races easier to get better returns of sub standard birds is a step backwards, 500 plus miles is tough even if all conditions are perfect, and a large percentage of birds still won't make it. That's what make us admire the birds and fanciers that succeed at it.If I put up a race prog for the national that went to la Ferte Bernard, tours falaise and ypres what would you think? Ypres first,gold cup, long yin then falaise as of old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkj Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 reims, ancenis, ypres, roye, all early libs 6am, if poss, if cant get them up before 8am then hold them all, so they all sleep out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 If I put up a race prog for the national that went to la Ferte Bernard, tours falaise and ypres what would you think? Ypres first,gold cup, long yin then falaise as of old?La Ferte Bernard is on the same line as Alencon, but about 15 miles south, so I would stick with Alencon as we have had good racing from there, although I have nothing against it.And Falaise wasn't a bad race point either if I remember, I do see the advantage of holding an east line as the channel is shorter and the measurements are fairer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 La Ferte Bernard is on the same line as Alencon, but about 15 miles south, so I would stick with Alencon as we have had good racing from there, although I have nothing against it.And Falaise wasn't a bad race point either if I remember, I do see the advantage of holding an east line as the channel is shorter and the measurements are fairer.It's 504 to la Ferte Bernard and 510 to reims to Ecclefechan! .....so I take it that it's not fairer for me ye wer looking for lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooheed 5 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 La Ferte Bernard is on the same line as Alencon, but about 15 miles south, so I would stick with Alencon as we have had good racing from there, although I have nothing against it.And Falaise wasn't a bad race point either if I remember, I do see the advantage of holding an east line as the channel is shorter and the measurements are fairer.Measurements are Nae fair to me that's for sure !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 It's 504 to la Ferte Bernard and 510 to reims to Ecclefechan! .....so I take it that it's not fairer for me ye wer looking for lolla Ferte Bernard 572ish and Reims 576ish to me what's your point caller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMS Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 reims, ancenis, ypres, roye, all early libs 6am, if poss, if cant get them up before 8am then hold them all, so they all sleep outThat would get my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 la Ferte Bernard 572ish and Reims 576ish to me what's your point caller?What the fook is fairer about an east point lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Am enjoying watching this thread i dont think we have the doos to try all the national races but might try 1 or 2 again next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Am enjoying watching this thread i dont think we have the doos to try all the national races but might try 1 or 2 again next yearGet them in big yin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Get them in big yinam no saying we wulnae send am saying i dont think we have the doos lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew suckle Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 reims, ancenis, ypres, roye, all early libs 6am, if poss, if cant get them up before 8am then hold them all, so they all sleep outTotally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiedoo. Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Measurements are Nae fair to me that's for sure !! Ya could always move Mr Happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooheed 5 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Ya could always move Mr HappyAye To Australia ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 la Ferte Bernard 572ish and Reims 576ish to me what's your point caller?Reims to me is 590 so have you guys moved without anyone knowing lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Reims to me is 590 so have you guys moved without anyone knowing lol.Trying to sneak closer tae the solway Stuart lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Reims to me is 590 so have you guys moved without anyone knowing lol.Lol no it was the rough measurements from Google maps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Trying to sneak closer tae the solway Stuart lolThat explains how well the e been doing ,flying into the easy sooth Steven lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Quite like the management race programme.....no sure about 5 year tie in tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted December 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Quite like the management race programme.....no sure about 5 year tie in thoWhat is it mate? not had it sent yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 What is it mate? not had it sent yet?Buckingham Portsmouth alencon Ypres acensis falaise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WulDon Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 the birds should have been libded with the snrpc SNRPC decided to 'breakaway' and destroyed some Fed's in the process, let them stay on there own with there Sh!ty little convoy, they will in due course destroy themselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WulDon Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 reims.. ancenis.. ypres.. roye lets stick too a programme instead of chopping n changing every year there is a bad race, it could benefit the pigeons long term more so at reims and ancenis when the majority of the convoy have probably been there before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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