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#21 User is offline   sandy25 

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 20:49 PM

View Postkingziemckay, on 12 June 2016 - 20:35 PM, said:

?do you know what medication you even gave them?

atb

Yes well advertised on Elimar and other websites .Dont want to end in court for naming them . Do you have any suggestions as to medications?
atb sandy 25

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 20:57 PM

I personally would treat with Flagyl then Iodine in the drinker every other day for a week. Gem do a product called 'Impact' that contains Iodine.
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 20:59 PM

if it was canker treat with emtryl,

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 21:12 PM

Hi sandy like everything with pigeons it's all about seeing a problem quickly and acting on it . It is always the secondary problems that cause the heart ache. I think it was about two years ago a friend of mine told me about this new canker treatment he had bought. ( clear capsule and herbal ingredients and cleared the pigeons in a few hours ) when I tested his pigeons they were heavily infected with canker. Gave him a tud of what I use seven day's later problem solved. I'm not saying the new treatment wouldn't work maybe his pigeons count was so high who knows.
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 21:15 PM

Looks like canker to me, pick it out using a matchstick then treat with Emtryl or something similar, plenty reputable cures for canker.

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 21:25 PM

U must take water n food Away 3 hours before and after treating with flagyl, i would then follow this up with a 5 day cure for canker where the active ingredient is not metrondizole.

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 21:28 PM

View Postbilly99, on 12 June 2016 - 21:12 PM, said:

Hi sandy like everything with pigeons it's all about seeing a problem quickly and acting on it . It is always the secondary problems that cause the heart ache. I think it was about two years ago a friend of mine told me about this new canker treatment he had bought. ( clear capsule and herbal ingredients and cleared the pigeons in a few hours ) when I tested his pigeons they were heavily infected with canker. Gave him a tud of what I use seven day's later problem solved. I'm not saying the new treatment wouldn't work maybe his pigeons count was so high who knows.

Clear capsule and herbal sounds like a bell ringing ......what out of a matter of interest did you give him I'm not on the cadge just need info and where to buy
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 21:48 PM

View Postsandy25, on 12 June 2016 - 22:28 PM, said:

Clear capsule and herbal sounds like a bell ringing ......what out of a matter of interest did you give him I'm not on the cadge just need info and where to buy
thanks
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 21:50 PM

View PostHenrik, on 12 June 2016 - 22:15 PM, said:

Looks like canker to me, pick it out using a matchstick then treat with Emtryl or something similar, plenty reputable cures for canker.


Basically agree. I have use cocktail stick, then cotton bud with iodine as a dressing. Always worked.
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 22:11 PM

View Postshowman, on 12 June 2016 - 21:50 PM, said:

Basically agree. I have use cocktail stick, then cotton bud with iodine as a dressing. Always worked.

Is that lugols iodine or tinture that you get from chemist?

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 22:20 PM

View PostWiley, on 12 June 2016 - 22:25 PM, said:

U must take water n food Away 3 hours before and after treating with flagyl, i would then follow this up with a 5 day cure for canker where the active ingredient is not metrondizole.

Ok young sir yi got me :emoticon-0136-giggle: . After using a product for urine infection which all the doo men started buying because in brackets on the packet it had metronidazole. What would you treat them with :)
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 22:47 PM

certainly lookes like canker, my yearlings have had pigeon pox every year except when i vaccinated them for pox and some get it worse than others, the ones who get it worst show all the indications of canker. I leave them to get over it the worst take 3/4 weeks and then they are imune for life they usualy take abt 5/7 days but most have indications of canker in one form or another

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 23:21 PM

As I have only ever seen the flagellates under a microscope - and never seen canker as a lump of something. What exactly is it? What is it that is formed (from what and by what) I assume such a lump would be a very late stage canker (having never seen it before) would that be correct?

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 23:21 PM

View Postfid, on 12 June 2016 - 23:47 PM, said:

certainly lookes like canker, my yearlings have had pigeon pox every year except when i vaccinated them for pox and some get it worse than others, the ones who get it worst show all the indications of canker. I leave them to get over it the worst take 3/4 weeks and then they are imune for life they usualy take abt 5/7 days but most have indications of canker in one form or another

Hi Rob can remember a short time ago we had a discussion about pigeon pox :emoticon-0136-giggle: .. Again I will say if you use potassium permanganate in the bath water twice a week it will keep all dirty pathogens at bay. In bath water what you are looking for is a light purple colour. :)
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 23:30 PM

View PostREDCHEQHEN, on 13 June 2016 - 00:21 AM, said:

As I have only ever seen the flagellates under a microscope - and never seen canker as a lump of something. What exactly is it? What is it that is formed (from what and by what) I assume such a lump would be a very late stage canker (having never seen it before) would that be correct?

Yip has taken a firm hold when you can see it . Think a bigger spoon will be needed now sorry couldn't resist :emoticon-0136-giggle:
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Posted 13 June 2016 - 08:20 AM

I agree with Billy 99 put potassium permanganate in drinker stops cross contamination until you decide what you are doing .

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 11:42 AM

View Postsandy25, on 12 June 2016 - 23:11 PM, said:

Is that lugols iodine or tinture that you get from chemist?

Tincture from chemist

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 13:21 PM

Potassium-Permanganate,does that not form part of walters potion Billy, if so then they have it in their drinkers once per week post race but have not tried it in bath water.I think i will have to vaccinate against it to try to make sure they dont get it next year thats providing i can buy the duel para-pox vaccine if not will get the one you brush on top of leg (after pulling feathers) but will also try p/p in bathwater. ps, will it also make them flee quicker lol.thanks for the input Billy99

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 14:29 PM

Removed this from birds throat this morning slight bleed .Attached File  image-13-06-16-15-20.jpeg (60.91K)
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does this help would you say it's canker or am I dealing with something very sinister?

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 15:34 PM

View Postfid, on 13 June 2016 - 14:21 PM, said:

Potassium-Permanganate,does that not form part of walters potion Billy, if so then they have it in their drinkers once per week post race but have not tried it in bath water.I think i will have to vaccinate against it to try to make sure they dont get it next year thats providing i can buy the duel para-pox vaccine if not will get the one you brush on top of leg (after pulling feathers) but will also try p/p in bathwater. ps, will it also make them flee quicker lol.thanks for the input Billy99

Good afternoon fid . I can't really comment on somebody else's potion as I have never seen it or used it. If you are going to try P/P in the bath water it should be a very light purple colour.

Ps. Doesn't make mine fly any quicker but helps to keep them healthy and clean. :lol: :lol:
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