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#1 User is offline   sandy25 

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 17:32 PM

Can I ask the forum to look at the attached pic and to give me your thoughts as to what ails this bird ... please then bear with me as the story unfolds ..

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 17:33 PM

canker
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 17:38 PM

looks like canker

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 17:52 PM

And i would say canker .

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:05 PM

Is it possible that some others might give their opinion esp the old hands so we can get an overall opinion thanking you
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:15 PM

Canker but I have seen pigeon pox inside a pigeons throat that looks similar but this is normally accompanied with pox on the outside of the beak and eyes ceres.
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:18 PM

View PostTony C, on 12 June 2016 - 18:15 PM, said:

Canker but I have seen pigeon pox inside a pigeons throat that looks similar but this is normally accompanied with pox on the outside of the beak and eyes ceres.

With that in mind attached is pic of bird in hand .Does that help in diagnosis

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:23 PM

View Postsandy25, on 12 June 2016 - 18:18 PM, said:

With that in mind attached is pic of bird in hand .Does that help in diagnosis

Here is maybe a better pic taken outside ..

Wouldnt upload too big sssshhhhhh.
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:26 PM

Seen this once before and it was Maize stuck in the cleft. Pluck it out..

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:32 PM

Def not maize Peter I would have spotted that .So what isit then?
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:37 PM

Right got that sorted out..
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:42 PM

C'Mon then Sandy put us divits oot oor misery and tell ?????

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:45 PM

The bird doesn't look terribly I'll from the photograph so what I say may be irrelevant.
If it doesn't respond to a canker treatment then it may be seeing the symptoms of a Herpes Virus.

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:51 PM

View Postpeter pandy, on 12 June 2016 - 18:42 PM, said:

C'Mon then Sandy put us divits oot oor misery and tell ?????

Peter I'm just trying to get a general diagnosis from as many as possible before I tell the rest of the story truth not made up please bear with me..
If it was your pigeon and it wasn't maize what would your diagnosis be?
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:52 PM

I'm 90% sure its canker but maybe poisoned by a cut from fighting.

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 18:58 PM

View Posthotrod, on 12 June 2016 - 18:52 PM, said:

I'm 90% sure its canker but maybe poisoned by a cut from fighting.

Thats the idea clear and simple diagnosis just like I did .

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 20:12 PM

Ok seems like no other diagnosis So here we go .last sunday found bird like this and phoned a company purporting to be able to cure canker in 3 hours .Arranged to go to them and collect capsules , got back here and medicated the birds all of them ..Went on holiday monday early my daughter (19) looked after birds all week , back home yesterday checked out birds this one and another three the same emailed company yesterday to ask for advice no answer yesterday evening so medicated those 4 again (included pic of bird showing lesion in throat ) This morning checked the bird again and found no change so took pics emailed that to company telling them their cure aparently does not work in 3 hours .Afternoon email arrived from them quote from it (
if (capsules have not cured the pigeon in 48 hours then what you have is not canker .Take them to a vet as you or your club mates are simply guessing .The pigeon in the picture has a severe fungal problem more like PIGEON POX by the look of it which will require strong antibiotics to cure )
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(What I can clearly see is that it is NOT canker and I would advise you see a vet soon as possible .What these pigeons have is something more serious .)
Firstly pox to my knowledge is a virus not fungal .(attached pic of pigeon with pox )
secondly , antibiotics they say dont work on viruses.
Hence my ? for diagnosis. What does the forum think I should use as a cure? And dont suggest the bin.....

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 20:24 PM

By the way I didnt at anytime ask for a refund just for help and advise .
what is the best advise from the forum to treat this 95%positive canker like all of us my birds matter to me....

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 20:27 PM

I dont have a clue as to what it could be so if it was me I would sterilise a needle and puncture the growth and with a pair of tweezers squeeze out any pus if possible then take a cotton bud and send a sample of to Belgica De Weerde for analysis. If no pus then a pair of nail clippers and chop a piece off and send that to them.

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 20:35 PM

?do you know what medication you even gave them?

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