kraftykev Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I have decided to mix my kirkpatricks up a bit next year and have decided for the first time to breed my stunning yellow kirkpatrick cock birds which are Louella based down the line with my black slightly pied kirkpatrick hens which are from firs loft down the line.I wonder what colors I will get. Cheers Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 3. Black X Recessive Red or Recessive yellow = Depends on what color is masked by red or yellow. No reds or yellows unless cock carries it.14. Recessive Red or Recessive Yellow X Black = same as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I would guess reds, mealies, blues and cheqs. The yellow is dilute and recessive, I think, the black isn't, so it will dominate. Someone in the know will answer this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Blue x Blue = Blue cocks - Blue hens Blue x Mealy = Mealy cocks - Blue hens Blue x Blue Chq = Blue, Blue Cheq cocks - Blue, Blue Cheq hens Blue x Red = Mealy, Red cocks - Blue, Blue Cheq hens Mealy x Blue = Blue, Mealy cocks - Blue, Mealy hens Mealy x Mealy = Mealy cocks - Blue, Mealy hens Mealy x Blue = Mealy, Red, Blue cocks - Mealy, Red Blue hens Chequer = Blue Cheq cocks - Blue Cheq hens Mealy x Red = Mealy, Red cocks - Mealy, Red, Blue, Blue Cheq hens Blue Cheq x Blue = Blue, Blue Cheq cocks - Blue, Blue Cheq hens Blue Cheq x Mealy = Mealy, Red cocks - Blue, Blue Cheq hens Blue Cheq x Blue Chq = Blue, Blue Cheq cocks - Blue, Blue Cheq hens Blue Cheq x Red = Mealy, Red cocks - Blue, Blue Cheq hens Red x Blue = Blue, Blue Cheq, Red, Mealy cocks - Blue, Blue Cheq, Red, Mealy hens Red x Mealy = Mealy, Red cocks - Mealy, Red, Blue, Blue Cheq hens Red x Blue Cheq = Blue, Blue Cheq, Red Mealy cocks - Blue, Blue Cheq, Mealy, Red hens Red x Red = Mealy, Red cocks - Mealy, Red, Blue, Blue Cheq hens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftykev Posted November 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Wow thank you all your info is great thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftykev Posted November 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I will let you all know what colors I get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigobob1 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I will let you all know what colors I get As stated above, the colour of the young will depend on what the recessive yellow of the cock is masking; blue or ash-red or both. One thing is certain, all the daughters will be dilute and all the sons will be intense-coloured, but carry dilute. There are a number of variables that will dictate the colour of the young; Masked by the recessive yellow, the cock could be blue bar/blue chequer, red bar/red chequer, he could also be spread. If the black hen is homozygous spread i.e. S(black)//S(black), all the young will be spread, she could also carry recessive red. If she is not homozygous spread, some of the colours listed below could be produced. The possibilities are: Black, dun, blue bar, blue chequer, dilute blue bar, dilute blue chequer, spread ash-red, dilute spread ash-red, red bar, yellow bar, red chequer, yellow chequer, recessive red, recessive yellow. If, for example, the cock is pure for ash-red dilute (under the recessive red dilute) and the hen is pure for spread and not carrying recessive red, the young will be spread ash-red cocks and dilute spread ash-red hens. If the cock is blue (under the recessive red) and the hen is pure for spread and not carrying recessive red, the youngsters will be black cocks and dun hens. Those two examples are the simplest to explain, so I hope they are of some help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy2 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Have you ever tried to raced these birds kev?would be intresting to see how they have shaped up racing mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftykev Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 hi tommy. i dont race myself anymore but i do like to breed the old kirkpatricks and race them in one loft races. this year i have a team of 5 racing north with the rpra one loft race and a team of four flying south with the mnfc. in 2009 i had a yellow kirkpatrick hen who did all her training, flow in hotspot races and flow the big final race with the rpra one loft race. i race under the name spencroftkirkpatrick if you want to follow my little team of old fashion kirkpatricks taking on the big boys with their fashionable strains lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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