mcrobs Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 As i was cleaning out the doos today i had a light bulb moment. I have a Unikon ETS system and have had a few strays in this year that i have reported one way or another. Would it not be great if when a stray enters the loft with an ETS ring on it told you who it belonged to and a telephone number. After all this piece of equipment is 21st century technology. Surely it would make more sense than having to report a bird on here, SHU or The Reddings. Also while i am on the technology thing it would be great if we had some sort of GPS system built into the rings that way we could track our birds and possible work out why we lose them or where they go. I am not sure what the cost would be for this but i know that mobile phones have this piece of equipment in them and you can get an app and track your phone if it gets lost. Why cant we do the same with our birds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Good post m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I think the size of the device which would transmit the signal over a long range may be a problem. However, they do use them to track BOP but the range is limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I think the size of the device which would transmit the signal over a long range may be a problem. However, they do use them to track BOP but the range is limited.Think he means that the owner of the ets ring would have his name address embed in the chip as well as the birds details. When it enters your loft you could scan it on yer own clock and see who it belongs to. This has its obvious drawbacks also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbar Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Think he means that the owner of the ets ring would have his name address embed in the chip as well as the birds details. When it enters your loft you could scan it on yer own clock and see who it belongs to. This has its obvious drawbacks alsocost per ring ,a good idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 cost per ring ,a good idea though. Should just be a change of software by the maker. It is a good idea regards strays and the stealing of ets rings and indeed the racing of birds not owned.......the downside is that good racers would not get their birds back and of course it is just the same as a name and address ring so not for the shu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank-123 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Think he means that the owner of the ets ring would have his name address embed in the chip as well as the birds details. When it enters your loft you could scan it on yer own clock and see who it belongs to. This has its obvious drawbacks alsoOne draw back could be cheating..A bird drops into your loft from a race 70 mph up the M74 and it could be handed over to the owner still in race time. Not that I for a minute think a pigeon man would do such a thing. While I am on about ETS if someone has two base stations could he move one base station to a friends loft and time in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 As i was cleaning out the doos today i had a light bulb moment. I have a Unikon ETS system and have had a few strays in this year that i have reported one way or another. Would it not be great if when a stray enters the loft with an ETS ring on it told you who it belonged to and a telephone number. After all this piece of equipment is 21st century technology. Surely it would make more sense than having to report a bird on here, SHU or The Reddings. Also while i am on the technology thing it would be great if we had some sort of GPS system built into the rings that way we could track our birds and possible work out why we lose them or where they go. I am not sure what the cost would be for this but i know that mobile phones have this piece of equipment in them and you can get an app and track your phone if it gets lost. Why cant we do the same with our birds?This could be the future, but revealing peronal details immediatly could breach the security of a race, it would need some thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 One draw back could be cheating..A bird drops into your loft from a race 70 mph up the M74 and it could be handed over to the owner still in race time. Not that I for a minute think a pigeon man would do such a thing. While I am on about ETS if someone has two base stations could he move one base station to a friends loft and time in?Yip that's the problem.....not with tauris.....think only race info on clock with other makes as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrobs Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I am sure there is a solution to make it easier. How about an ID number then when it enters the loft. You then text the a number and the ID number and it then contacts the owner with a text message but doesnt send the message for 48hrs. That would stop cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I am sure there is a solution to make it easier. How about an ID number then when it enters the loft. You then text the a number and the ID number and it then contacts the owner with a text message but doesnt send the message for 48hrs. That would stop cheating. Now it's a wee bit complicated with withhold text etc........some of the members in my club still think the ets system is the work of magic lol.....texting! !!! Out of the reach for them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrobs Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Now it's a wee bit complicated with withhold text etc........some of the members in my club still think the ets system is the work of magic lol.....texting! !!! Out of the reach for them lol I understand where you are coming from. We have members down here who think the ETS clocks them in as long as they are within a 20 mile radius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie2 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Think bending has a s system called benzing live which tracks pigeon ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter dempsey Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Frank 123 is it possible to have 2 pocket clocks? and have 2 sets of rings assigned the same numbers on both set of rings,what would the results of this be ? if you send your team with say pocket clock number one and you have the identical remaining rings back at the loft????food for thought or would each pocket clock show up differently not sure be interesting to know?????peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 With the Benzing system, every electronic ring is issued with an identification number. When you enter the pigeon to the race this number is recorded with the pigeon entered. When you time the pigeon, the identification number is also recorded. No two rings have the same identification number assigned to them. At the start of the season the Secretary is issued with the ring list for every loft by the person who assigned the rings, if it was not the Secretary that performed that task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWa Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 With the Benzing system, every electronic ring is issued with an identification number. When you enter the pigeon to the race this number is recorded with the pigeon entered. When you time the pigeon, the identification number is also recorded. No two rings have the same identification number assigned to them. At the start of the season the Secretary is issued with the ring list for every loft by the person who assigned the rings, if it was not the Secretary that performed that task. never heard of the sec needing your ring list, or clock setter for that matteryou may have got your rings assigned at another club all they need is the printout at basketing of the birds you have sent to a race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 never heard of the sec needing your ring list, or clock setter for that matteryou may have got your rings assigned at another club all they need is the printout at basketing of the birds you have sent to a raceSurely a club official, any club you are a member of allocates your birds ets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWa Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Surely a club official, any club you are a member of allocates your birds ets? im a member of 2 clubs stevenwhen I get my rings allocated I get the assigned printout with itthat is mine to keep if I fly out the club who didn't allocate my rings I don't need to give them any infoall they need is my clock with the birds on it when sent to a race i think you can get any club to allocate your rings ,doesn't have to be one you belong to the fed and snfc don't ask for a ring list all they need is the race printout ps- ive had to get mine allocated by a clock setter from a diff fed in the pastbecause my club wasn't able to do mine due to non availability of said clock setter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 im a member of 2 clubs stevenwhen I get my rings allocated I get the assigned printout with itthat is mine to keep if I fly out the club who didn't allocate my rings I don't need to give them any infoall they need is my clock with the birds on it when sent to a race i think you can get any club to allocate your rings ,doesn't have to be one you belong to the fed and snfc don't ask for a ring list all they need is the race printout ps- ive had to get mine allocated by a clock setter from a diff fed in the pastbecause my club wasn't able to do mine due to non availability of said clock setterYe understand mate. I did think it had to be a club that you were a member of that assigned them but not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWa Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Ye understand mate. I did think it had to be a club that you were a member of that assigned them but not sure found it in my shu booklet if ring assignment is done outwith the club then the ring list is to be forwarded to the club officials a minimum of 14 days before the 1st race so where would we stand with the snfc this rule would mean we have to send a ring list to them at least 14 days before the 1st national race or would it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeboah Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Listened to van lint taking about the workings of electronic systems sure he said Taiwan where he worked they could crack the system overnight such was their know howThe guy on the news last night who is in hiding in Moscow spoke about how the intelligence services could take over other nations software without them ever knowingIf they can clone dolly the Sheep A small matter of ETS Would be a walk in the Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 found it in my shu booklet if ring assignment is done outwith the club then the ring list is to be forwarded to the club officials a minimum of 14 days before the 1st race so where would we stand with the snfc this rule would mean we have to send a ring list to them at least 14 days before the 1st national race or would it ? Back to my previous post. This is the way it is done in my club. When I assign rings I give a printout to the fancier and however many copies they require dependant on how many clubs of which they are members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 im a member of 2 clubs stevenwhen I get my rings allocated I get the assigned printout with itthat is mine to keep if I fly out the club who didn't allocate my rings I don't need to give them any infoall they need is my clock with the birds on it when sent to a racei think you can get any club to allocate your rings ,doesn't have to be one you belong to the fed and snfc don't ask for a ring list all they need is the race printout ps- ive had to get mine allocated by a clock setter from a diff fed in the pastbecause my club wasn't able to do mine due to non availability of said clock setterAs happens when you are sending to the National races and take your clock and birds to these National centres to send them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 never heard of the sec needing your ring list, or clock setter for that matteryou may have got your rings assigned at another club all they need is the printout at basketing of the birds you have sent to a raceAs happens in most clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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