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Recently reading an article from vetinery Johan Van Der Cruyssen, and he believes that it's important that breeders be provided an extra calcium supplement and not just receive calcium for Grit. What is your opinion and do you use any extra calcium supplements when breeding and why.

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I use "vegetural" by belgavet which is a dry veg mix which I mix on their feed and is rich in calcium as well as fresh veg. Some fanciers use the babymilk products which is another sourse of calcium. :animatedpigeons:

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have used in past but if grit given all year round no need imo

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I think the biggest problem at the start of breeding is firstly the cock driving the hen , if overzealous the hens health can suffer 1 from stress which usually causes canker to flair , and 2 stops the hen getting to food and grit this is a major factor in hens been egg bound going off their legs sometimes best locking these cocks back for half an hour so hen can eat and get grit ;)

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I think the biggest problem at the start of breeding is firstly the cock driving the hen , if overzealous the hens health can suffer 1 from stress which usually causes canker to flair , and 2 stops the hen getting to food and grit this is a major factor in hens been egg bound going off their legs sometimes best locking these cocks back for half an hour so hen can eat and get grit ;)

I usually put grit in the nest box during breeding time. :emoticon-0138-thinking:

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I usually put grit in the nest box during breeding time. :emoticon-0138-thinking:

Same here i put grit in the nest box ,And feed in the box when the cock is driving the

Hen hard as he wont give her time to pick up some feeding or grit .

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Most grits are water insoluble and, as such, it is difficult for the birds to absorb much calcium from them.

It is much better to give Calcium in a soluble form via the drinker and to obtain maximum benefit it should be accompanied by vitamin D which helps the body to absorb it.

Vitamin D is the sunshine vitamin and for some very obvious reasons every living thing on this island is lacking in it.

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As a bairn I remember being at the powfoot beach gathering sea shells and grinding them up at home

They would still perform a useful function even though less useful then a soluble supplement. You have a great memory!

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They would still perform a useful function even though less useful then a soluble supplement. You have a great memory!

Men in my club still do it Robert. I use grit like everybody else during breeding but its not available all the time the rest of the year.

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Men in my club still do it Robert. I use grit like everybody else during breeding but its not available all the time the rest of the year.

 

I did it myself when I had the energy and enthusiasm. That was when doo keeping was as it should have stayed. We used our initiative and energy to try to give the birds that little something extra rather than bowing to the blatant commercialism which is rife today.

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Recently reading an article from vetinery Johan Van Der Cruyssen, and he believes that it's important that breeders be provided an extra calcium supplement and not just receive calcium for Grit. What is your opinion and do you use any extra calcium supplements when breeding and why.

Ryan

 

I like to use calcium in a crum mix I make up which I put before the stock birds in the mornings, the crum mix I use is based on a product call golden boost, although with my mix I also like to add plenty of different oils . :animatedpigeons:

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Ryan

 

I like to use calcium in a crum mix I make up which I put before the stock birds in the mornings, the crum mix I use is based on a product call golden boost, although with my mix I also like to add plenty of different oils . :animatedpigeons:

 

How do you make it bern, thought I might have seen u at Epsom yesterday

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I think the biggest problem at the start of breeding is firstly the cock driving the hen , if overzealous the hens health can suffer 1 from stress which usually causes canker to flair , and 2 stops the hen getting to food and grit this is a major factor in hens been egg bound going off their legs sometimes best locking these cocks back for half an hour so hen can eat and get grit ;)

 

 

 

any of the calcuim tablets for pregnant women or for kids will more than do the job

 

 

i dont give any specail treatment to the hen feeding wise when there been driven by the cock apart from when there getting a bath ill separate all the hens into the aviary

 

 

i think the act of driving by the cock is natures way of getting the weight off the hens and internal fat that the bird may have stored getting the the bird in laying condition

 

if canker arises levels rise too unacceptable levels you can treat for canker while there sitting the eggs

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any of the calcuim tablets for pregnant women or for kids will more than do the job

 

 

i dont give any specail treatment to the hen feeding wise when there been driven by the cock apart from when there getting a bath ill separate all the hens into the aviary

 

 

i think the act of driving by the cock is natures way of getting the weight off the hens and internal fat that the bird may have stored getting the the bird in laying condition

 

if canker arises levels rise too unacceptable levels you can treat for canker while there sitting the eggs

bang on jam fat hens dont lay and the cocks know it

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