stantheman Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Stuart charity begins at home! its high time monies raised at blackpool be ploughed back into the sport there are several ways it could be used eg for running our own courier system for repatriating lost birds or regional stray centres, publicity and new starter kits the list is endless, but no we would sooner spend it on someone having a jolly in blackpool or even abroad at the big shows in the meantime lets put the subs up due to lack of members apathy rules ok
Guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 even though i have to pay £3.50 to transfer them i still save money and as from now i am buying rings from nwhu as a protest at the way the rpra run things maybe if we all voted with our feet it would waken them up out of the dark agesso Stan youre buying rings from N.W.H.U. , will you have to register them with the R.P.R.A. ?? and what is the joining fee ?? thanks. andy.
Tony C Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 I believe the joining fee is £3 andy and no they dont need to be registered with the RPRA.
stantheman Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 membership £3.50 rings 15 pence each and no you dont have to register them with rpra unless they change it when ring sales go down. its ridiculous that as an individual member of the rpra you pay more to buy rings direct from them than you do if you buy them via a club can anyone tell me the logic in this? ps it does not matter how many you order they are still more for an individual member
Guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 I believe the joining fee is £3 andy and no they dont need to be registered with the RPRA. thanks Tony ,could well consider doing that myself in the future ,we (our club) have lost over half our ring sales this year,because of price . i can now understand where they have gone . andy.
Tony C Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 I know one or two feds that are looking into doing the same andy, think of the savings on 4-5000 rings each year.
Guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 I know one or two feds that are looking into doing the same andy, think of the savings on 4-5000 rings each year. our federation Tony has split in the last few years .started with a few clubs (and fed winning clubs at that)has grown year on year ,they have much better crates and transport ,and reduced fees,cheaper rings and flying costs .my current fed will change or die ?? andy.
vanlink Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Sorry if I am repeating anything. This is disgusting in my view, Are they goanna move the RPRA headquarters to Somalia? Eight pound may seem cheap but its not when it’s added to region fees, club fees, national club fees etc. A near 100% increase in fees is a scandal. How has this been allowed to get into a state where by you get a sudden price hike like that? And at a time when we have a recession and there is o inflation at the moment. I will be joining some of you with getting the names off my partnership. You can also forget my kids being members too. So there are two young future members gone. So here we have it the RPRA have declared how they will deal with the decline in the sport they will just keep putting up fees until they price them selves out of existence. Mean while we will all go to Blackpool, have a jolly time and raise loads of money for someone else.
stantheman Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 well put mate its hardly going to encourage new members into the sport is it i dont mind paying if it was for benifit of the sport and things were getting done but it appears that we are stuck in reverse and the people at top are not doing anything about it, in fact i can see that in near future there will be a move away from rpra as people will buy rings from elsewhere and the big clubs will stand on there own without being governed by the rpra the technology is there for this to happen and it only takes one club to take the leap forward and it will take off bigtime
vanlink Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Hear hear, well put. I am with you Stan the man. Your right. It will get to a stage when the RPRA will be so dear and ineffective that one of the big clubs will go it alone. I would like to add that I am now going in to cancel my bhw and racing pigeon pictorial international. This will save me £33.80 bhw £30 pictorial £16 saved from losing two names on partnership. Total saving. £79.80 The Bhw is mostly drivel and lets face it, it’s an advertising rag with no real substance any more. The results that really matter i.e. nationals/classics are all on line anyway. The Pictorial has nothing exclusive because the articles are online where I usually read them first then I pay £2.50 to read them again. Also they are usually blatant advertising for fanciers to sell birds and again contain very little if any tips or advice. I get far more advice on the pigeon forums. Post a question as I did recently on a forum and you will get lots of multiple answers from your national winners to your clubs flyers that may have come up with something no one else has thought about. The forums are to a large effect unregulated too which for me is far more liberating than the heavily edited BHW.
joe61 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 stan all due respect mate but you know and i know nobody will do anything because they cant be bothered its just another day when theres nothing to talk about so lets moan about the rpra oh happy days
stantheman Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 vanlink i think theres a lot of truth in what you say the bhw is really just an advertising paper for people to get rid of their c*** just take a look at last few weeks it would be frightning to add up total birds for sale and how many are packing in, the rpra ought to have an online forum and helpline and move with the times. it wont be long before one club takes that first important step and breaks away.
joe61 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 what club would that be it was tried in the 60s and people did not want to know so who will be the first oh happy days
PIGEON_MAN Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 what club would that be it was tried in the 60s and people did not want to know so who will be the first oh happy days Wasnt the NEHU or the NWHU formed by members of the RPRA that broke away years ago.
joe61 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 i think they were going b4 the60s icould be wrong some thing needs to be done or pigeon racing is going down the pan their are leaders and followes i dont see any leaders sticking their heads out the treanches oh happy days
vanlink Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 Perhaps in the 60s, although I was not there so missed out on free love and drugs, the RPRA was a strong force. It is becoming weaker. There will come a time when it cannot sustain its self just as many clubs and feds are now finding it difficult financially. The RPRA does rely very much on the whole club, fed, region concept. National and classic clubs are different and have a larger spread and there are many compared with the 60s. I think it is inevitable unless one day you are prepared to pay a large membership fee to support the archaic system of a club, fed, region and council.
Guest Posted November 25, 2009 Report Posted November 25, 2009 stan all due respect mate but you know and i know nobody will do anything because they cant be bothered its just another day when theres nothing to talk about so lets moan about the rpra oh happy days well i dont think its going to be you Joe. many are already voting with there feet ,a large majority have moved to the N.W.H.U. from this area ,and i am sure many,many will follow. andy.
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