LANARKSHIRE AGM

[rembrant2coo]

why dont you try the lottery for £10.000

 

 

with 90.000 sitting in the bank i don,t think so somehow stevie

[VMS]

 

the Pilgrims new it was happy days for them, when it was posted as a £3,000 prize money race,  they had the birds that could do the race, plus made it a duplication at the same time couldn't fail,  as prize money goes  with 400 birds  entered  that was never going to recoup the loss.    

 

but it seems Lanarkshire is not learning from past experiences as far as fiances are concerned.Also a major hike in dues.Think there are more attractive propositions for the more discerning fancier. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest frank dooman]

 

your no paying attention, when you hire for six months they  have already had that all done and are  road worthy  

 

surly hireing is throwing money away bigda are you not better buying what yous can aford?

[Taylorsloft]

 

with 90.000 sitting in the bank i don,t think so somehow stevie

 

it was done up here clubs got lotto money chipped in for new tranporter

[Tony C]

 

with 90.000 sitting in the bank i don,t think so somehow stevie

 

Individual clubs put in for a grant for a double issue of crates each is a way around it. Fed buys the transporter clubs buy the crates.

[Big Davie]

 

the Pilgrims new it was happy days for them, when it was posted as a £3,000 prize money race,  they had the birds that could do the race, plus made it a duplication at the same time couldn't fail,  as prize money goes  with 400 birds  entered  that was never going to recoup the loss.    

Danny weve been here before, even if we had gone on our own we would still have had an outlay of £3000 prize money, plus convoying costs etc etc, with an entry of only 400 birds or loss would have been even greater.To cover the cost of going alone and the 3k prize money the birdage would have to been somewhere in the region of £10 per bird which is ridiculous.I keep hearing about this £3K loss which is correct, but if we had not gone with the SNFC this loss could have almost doubled, or am i missing something.

Davie

 

 

[Guest frank dooman]

i think bigda,s fell asleep ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest bigda]

you can hire a 7.5 ton truck for £220 a week  pay 2 divers  Â£400  Â£300 derv  for the weekend   save £700  for the fed on a geraldy type  a race,  if you have  160 baskets  at a £10    6 races x 700 = £4,200   wich is not  bad plus all the othere perks like use it  for mid week race

[VMS]

you can hire a 7.5 ton truck for £220 a week  pay 2 divers  Â£400  Â£300 derv  for the weekend   save £700  for the fed on a geraldy type  a race,  if you have  160 baskets  at a £10    6 races x 700 = £4,200   wich is not  bad plus all the othere perks like use it  for mid week race

 

You should have steped up at the agm for the post of transport manager Danny. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[nogin]

 

You should have steped up at the agm for the post of transport manager Danny. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

NEVER SAW YOU AT THE MEETING VINCENT SMITH  :-/

[Guest bigda]

Danny weve been here before, even if we had gone on our own we would still have had an outlay of £3000 prize money, plus convoying costs etc etc, with an entry of only 400 birds or loss would have been even greater.To cover the cost of going alone and the 3k prize money the birdage would have to been somewhere in the region of £10 per bird which is ridiculous.I keep hearing about this £3K loss which is correct, but if we had not gone with the SNFC this loss could have almost doubled, or am i missing something.

Davie

 

 

it was bad management to offer £3,000 for the  race the problem should have  been corrected  before  as there would always be  no more than 500 doos away to that race, going with the national  to a extent ok   but remember  if the lanarkshire had gone on its own at £22-28 per basket as was charged  by the national  that would  made the picture different also

[Big Davie]

 

it was bad management to offer £3,000 for the  race the problem should have  been corrected  before  as there would always be  no more than 500 doos away to that race, going with the national  to a extent ok   but remember  if the lanarkshire had gone on its own at £22-28 per basket as was charged  by the national  that would  made the picture different also

Danny lets say we went alone at £28 per basket, with say 25 birds in each basket and 400 birds entered. That equates to to 16 baskets x £28 = Total income of

£ 448 to cover £3k prize money plus haulage, convoyers etc,etc, the figures dont add up and as i said earlier the loss to the fed would have been far greater than this £3k that is being touted.

Davie

 

 

[Guest bigda]

you can hire a 7.5 ton truck for £220 a week  pay 2 divers  Â£400  Â£300 derv  for the weekend   save £700  for the fed on a geraldy type  a race,  if you have  160 baskets  at a £10    6 races x 700 = £4,200   which is not  bad plus all the other perks like use it  for mid week race

 

now to add to that if we had  3 transporters  and made £4,200x 3 =  Â£12,600 for the feds coffer per year  and ferrying more feds doos

[Guest bigda]

Danny lets say we went alone at £28 per basket, with say 25 birds in each basket and 400 birds entered. That equates to to 16 baskets x £28 = Total income of

£ 448 to cover £3k prize money plus haulage, convoyers etc,etc, the figures dont add up and as i said earlier the loss to the fed would have been far greater than this £3k that is being touted.

 

                                                                                                        Davie the two problems  that turned up out of the race was the prize money     thats gone now and lost,  the members  never felt that £25-28 per basket was  a problem,  but its only seem a problem when the  lanarkshire ask for the same kind of money to go distance racing  on there own  now i know  and you know also the national looks after there  organizers  see them all right with a few bob on race marking  night  they also  pay basket men  we had our own baskets  on the first race with the national those baskets where all cleaned and  sprayed  for the said race by the clubs that held marking now we where charged  Â£40 for cleaning  they where our own baskets  and should have had  a hiring fee to compensate for that  and a hall let charge

 

 

[Big Davie]

Danny, i agree that the SNFC should have paid a hirers fee for the use of the Fed baskets. Going back to the figures earlier, even if the Fed paid out no prize money, the income would have still only only been £448  at £28 per basket with only 400 birds entered a massive loss would still have been realised, think about the costs of going alone,convoyers wages, feeding, haulage, ferry crossings etc, etc, we were lucky to get away with a £3K loss.

 

 

 

[Novice]

It's good to see a meaningful discussion from you lads.

Well done

 

Welcome VMS

[Guest bigda]

Danny, i agree that the SNFC should have paid a hirers fee for the use of the Fed baskets. Going back to the figures earlier, even if the Fed paid out no prize money, the income would have still only only been £448  at £28 per basket with only 400 birds entered a massive loss would still have been realised, think about the costs of going alone,convoyers wages, feeding, haulage, ferry crossings etc, etc, we were lucky to get away with a £3K loss.

                                

 

yes   thats the sad thing about the doo game  not enough  doos to go to the distance racing  but you  have the  members to make it pay having the distance races 1,000 members  with the potential of all sending  4 birds each  giving you a min of 4,000 birds    

but we in the lanarkshire have other problems  as we have  150 -180  national men in our fed  wanting  more hours on the wing  and restricting the fed as they Will use us as   training

where at some of the  races we go to  they only send the  odd  6 to get the  hours on the wing to then go with the national   and most of the delegates are Nat minded and keep pushing for the distance  as its cheap  training  if they go with the national is a £1 per bird min against  35p in the club per bird  so there eyes are fixed only on the national  don't  have a problem with that   but  if we come to the vote for fed improvements we are shot down with the pilgrims

 

[Big Davie]

Being a bit more positive, really pleased to see Jim Hannah back as race controller, all the best Jim, and hope the knockers on here give you peace to get on with it.

Davie

[clyde]

 

A HEAR THE OFFICIALS HAVE WENT OUT THERE WAY TO KEEP A CERTAIN FLYER  FROM JOINING THEIR FED ,  :-/ :-/ :-/

 

WHY  ?  :-/ :-/ :-/

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Being a bit more positive, really pleased to see Jim Hannah back as race controller, all the best Jim, and hope the knockers on here give you peace to get on with it.

Davie

 

A great move, a pity he resigned last year.

[LOUD AND PROUD]

 

WHY  ?  :-/ :-/ :-/

 

YOU KNOW WHY  

[budgie]

 

A great move, a pity he resigned last year.

Jim had his reasons and if it happens again and he is in the same predicament he will throw in the towel again.Good luck to him 2010 he will certainly need all the support he can get.

 

 

[jocky]

 

A great move, a pity he resigned last year.

 

all i can say is KELSO-KELSO-KELSO"""""""""

[LOUD AND PROUD]

 

all i can say is KELSO-KELSO-KELSO"""""""""

 

Still had good racing  

[ALF]

 

all i can say is KELSO-KELSO-KELSO"""""""""

 

Now now Jocky nae need for that...