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are there any point in  having  club huts now,  as there seems to be  fed control with setting  the cost  of  birdage every year, and leaving the clubs without  the prospect of  adding  much on to the cost  of the birdage to  help support the daily ruining of there club, to add to that, the fed then

also adds more expense to the  outside clubs by making  races central marking, and then its  left to these clubs to arrange and pay  for there birds to be  ferryed to the central  marketing stations , as this is extra  expense and the fed is in profit, i do not see why they should"nt have there transport costs meet,  after all it is not the fault of the members that the  numbers are going down,  as this can only put more  clubs to the wall having to find some one with a van ever time  there is central marking, doing it any other way

also affects the clubs income  going  to Central marking stations then handing them who are  bigger there fees, also the members  are then left out of pocket with  additional  cost for  petrol  get and returning from these  places if the fed is in profit that year, the situation should be no increase on theses small clubs,  and there are other clubs  just about needing a  transporter on there own, with the  amount of birds they ferry to  marking stations  in some cases 2 runs   to be made,  so  i think this should be addressed this year before the season begins.     big da as it is  

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could be that clubs with say under ten members may have to basket at the bigger clubs then next year clubs with under fifteen members then down to three or four clubs only wonder what the pool money will be like then and how many lanarkshire members will be lost with there clubs :'( :'( :'( :'(

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are there any point in  having  club huts now,  as there seems to be  fed control with setting  the cost  of  birdage every year, and leaving the clubs without  the prospect of  adding  much on to the cost  of the birdage to  help support the daily ruining of there club, to add to that, the fed then

also adds more expense to the  outside clubs by making  races central marking, and then its  left to these clubs to arrange and pay  for there birds to be  ferryed to the central  marketing stations , as this is extra  expense and the fed is in profit, i do not see why they should"nt have there transport costs meet,  after all it is not the fault of the members that the  numbers are going down,  as this can only put more  clubs to the wall having to find some one with a van ever time  there is central marking, doing it any other way

also affects the clubs income  going  to Central marking stations then handing them who are  bigger there fees, also the members  are then left out of pocket with  additional  cost for  petrol  get and returning from these  places if the fed is in profit that year, the situation should be no increase on theses small clubs,  and there are other clubs  just about needing a  transporter on there own, with the  amount of birds they ferry to  marking stations  in some cases 2 runs   to be made,  so  i think this should be addressed this year before the season begins.     big da as it is  

 

GOT TO AGREE WITH YOU THERE DANNY , THIS YEAR OUR CLUB IS FLYING FOR NO PRIZE MONEY , THE

SIMPLE REASON BEING WE NEED MONEY TO RUN THE CLUB AS WE NEAR ENOUGH WENT TO THE WALL THIS SEASON , WE WERE PAYING OUT MORE THAN WE WERE GETTING IN  :-/ :-/

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sorry to hear that harky,  but the feds don't realize   how hard it is for the committee to try and get 2 p on the birdage above the fed price,  because the fed has hammered it before  leaving nothing for the clubs to add,  and with the   increase in  subscriptions hitting partnership they in turn  get removed from  the  clubs.  when a fed can make a profit  it should always be  status quo first and for most,  as there are   members out here in the lanarkshire that   have  great club huts,   and are there for there  own community involvement,  and no club in the lanarkshire fed  should have the upper hand on any  one club,  and i would go as  far as to say the fed should  be giving financial aid to clubs that are finding it hard    to keep there clubs afloat  

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could be that clubs with say under ten members may have to basket at the bigger clubs then next year clubs with under fifteen members then down to three or four clubs only wonder what the pool money will be like then and how many lanarkshire members will be lost with there clubs :'( :'( :'( :'(

 

hopefully  we can  help the clubs that are finding it hardest to survive,  we don't need to have clubs  with   60 members in

one why not  make incentives  for members to join smaller clubs,  to  even up membership   numbers,   this could be  made possible  through the federation,  and in the federations own interest,   as it would be a sorry state  if the clubs becomes no more than  a one  club  fed

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We dont pay any prize money in our club but i know other clubs do it but then you would be looking at charging club members around 50p a bird to send to the races so it's a decision you have to make i suppose .Next year our club will charge 40p a pigeon which is approx £1.20 a basket above the fed based on there being 28 doos in each basket but as i said we wont be paying out any prize money off it

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Could I ask if every club pays the same amount per bird and does the fed own its own transporter.

 

All clubs are charged £10 a basket Tony and we have our own trailers but need to hire units to pull them

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the only way is try and get a few sponcers  Alf  the  pub next to you the taxis  shops sponcer a race  every year  then the money you get  from entrants 25p a go  all saved till the   last race   or race to suit

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All clubs are charged £10 a basket Tony and we have our own trailers but need to hire units to pull them

 

Is that inland and channel,what would that be approx per bird.

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Is that inland and channel,what would that be approx per bird.

 

It will be to Approx 250-60mls as after that the fed are going with the SNFC to the longer races which works out at approx 36p a pigeon based on 28 birds in a basket

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It will be to Approx 250-60mls as after that the fed are going with the SNFC to the longer races which works out at approx 36p a pigeon based on 28 birds in a basket

 

dont think the nat will allow 28 in the basket alf 25/26 inland 22 for channel

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dont think the nat will allow 28 in the basket alf 25/26 inland 22 for channel

 

That's just the fed i am quoting Frank ;)

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That's just the fed i am quoting Frank ;)

 

:P :P :P :P :P :P :P;)

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does it really cost that much to collect birds from each club a rich fed that still pennypinches we have already lost clubs to almondvally because they guarantee to collect there birds on a friday the lanarkshire fed will get smaller and smaller if there is not some good ideas coming foreward a happy fed is a good fed

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does it really cost that much to collect birds from each club a rich fed that still pennypinches we have already lost clubs to almondvally because they guarantee to collect there birds on a friday the lanarkshire fed will get smaller and smaller if there is not some good ideas coming foreward a happy fed is a good fed

 

they will, have to get there act together as this is  affecting   clubs  in the  fed,  and remember in normal times the fed looses about as Manny  members that are in a club every year by  natural causes  :o

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our club 50p a bird 24 birds to a basket pay out prize money although we loose a wee bit every year

£3,500 in the bank

and recently got our own premises  and we run the central marking for the fed  lost some members this year which is  a worry most packed in the birds

but we have a good bunch in our club

good secretary in charge ;)

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our club 50p a bird 24 birds to a basket pay out prize money although we loose a wee bit every year

£3,500 in the bank

and recently got our own premises  and we run the central marking for the fed  lost some members this year which is  a worry most packed in the birds

but we have a good bunch in our club

good secretary in charge ;)

 

Burnbank is a good working club with all members participating. Harmony in clubs now is very rare, well done to Peter White            ( secretary )and Jim Hannah ( President )for running the club so well. ;)

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GOT TO AGREE WITH YOU THERE DANNY , THIS YEAR OUR CLUB IS FLYING FOR NO PRIZE MONEY , THE

SIMPLE REASON BEING WE NEED MONEY TO RUN THE CLUB AS WE NEAR ENOUGH WENT TO THE WALL THIS SEASON , WE WERE PAYING OUT MORE THAN WE WERE GETTING IN  :-/ :-/

 

did your club not  try and stop a member from using ETS then turend members away that where in the same section as you's but you had to give them 2200yds over fly and dose your club now have ETS for all the members this is what happens with small minded clubs

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my club will be paying 50 pounds for a 1st 10 for a 2nd then 5 for the 3rd

Guest TAMMY_1
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my club will be paying 50 pounds for a 1st 10 for a 2nd then 5 for the 3rd

 

thats great prize money Rab, how do they manage to pay out that ?

Guest WINGS 04
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thats great prize money Rab, how do they manage to pay out that ?

 

the prove tam  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Guest TAMMY_1
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the prove tam  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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