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John Crowder sorry john

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Posted 2 February 2013 - 22:03 PM

what's the story of john crowder's busschaerts apart from having birds direct.

did they win well? what major birds came from his loft?

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Posted 2 February 2013 - 22:43 PM

Why don't you phone him and ask him!
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

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Posted 2 February 2013 - 22:49 PM

View PostBlue Chequer Pied, on 2 February 2013 - 22:43 PM, said:

Why don't you phone him and ask him!





i intend to. but first i want to see if he's worth calling. have you anything positive to add?

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Posted 2 February 2013 - 22:56 PM

View Postmaricelbill, on 2 February 2013 - 21:49 PM, said:

i intend to. but first i want to see if he's worth calling. have you anything positive to add?


i will add a hen frm john bred 1st fed yb nat grand son 1st fed yb open newark by a distance.plus other club and fed tickets for her yb,s then she won 2nd in her class at show.so she can breed them and is good looking to.also gave a yb of her away to new fancier was best yb i his loft so some more tickets for a yb of her
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Posted 2 February 2013 - 23:06 PM

View Postmaricelbill, on 2 February 2013 - 22:49 PM, said:

i intend to. but first i want to see if he's worth calling. have you anything positive to add?


I think John Crowder is a much respected pigeon man and has been for many many years. I also think he is definately 'worth' calling. Hope that is 'positive' enough for you, so wind your neck in, nothing negative in my first post just good common sense. If you want to know something always best to get it first hand. Have a nice day :emoticon-0157-sun: :emoticon-0157-sun: :emoticon-0157-sun:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

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Posted 2 February 2013 - 23:24 PM

View PostBlue Chequer Pied, on 2 February 2013 - 23:06 PM, said:

I think John Crowder is a much respected pigeon man and has been for many many years. I also think he is definately 'worth' calling. Hope that is 'positive' enough for you, so wind your neck in, nothing negative in my first post just good common sense. If you want to know something always best to get it first hand. Have a nice day :emoticon-0157-sun: :emoticon-0157-sun: :emoticon-0157-sun:





it's bed time. i'll have a nice sleep <_<

i rang john crowder possibly 60 times from last july to last october. i got one answer. he wasn't in at the time. the phone was never picked up again so I stopped calling. he is much respected and i believe smashing bloke. gentleman. had many direct busschaerts. what i wanted to know was what particular birds is he associated with in his busschaerts. larkins had the musketeers etc. corbett the coppi etc.
but john crowder?
so now! you have it all B) B)

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Posted 2 February 2013 - 23:27 PM

View Postblaz, on 2 February 2013 - 22:56 PM, said:

i will add a hen frm john bred 1st fed yb nat grand son 1st fed yb open newark by a distance.plus other club and fed tickets for her yb,s then she won 2nd in her class at show.so she can breed them and is good looking to.also gave a yb of her away to new fancier was best yb i his loft so some more tickets for a yb of her



i hear different things about his birds. any particular of his lines they came from?

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Posted 2 February 2013 - 23:36 PM

View Postmaricelbill, on 2 February 2013 - 23:24 PM, said:

it's bed time. i'll have a nice sleep <_<

i rang john crowder possibly 60 times from last july to last october. i got one answer. he wasn't in at the time. the phone was never picked up again so I stopped calling. he is much respected and i believe smashing bloke. gentleman. had many direct busschaerts. what i wanted to know was what particular birds is he associated with in his busschaerts. larkins had the musketeers etc. corbett the coppi etc.
but john crowder?
so now! you have it all B) B)

john has not been in the best of health for the last few years but his bushys have won every where johns family of bshys are divided into 3 familys his plutos his little blk and the crayonne bushys he sold the rapido line a few year back make no mistake no one had better dirrect bushys than john and he is a fantastic stock man and also a true gent i visited him 3-4 years ago with a friend i have known John for well over 35 years
i do know his plutos are based on the dirrect hens out of pluto and the rost ck mosboro productive gent why not pay him a visit bill he will make you very welcome
the truth is here not out there

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Posted 2 February 2013 - 23:43 PM

View Postmaricelbill, on 2 February 2013 - 22:27 PM, said:

i hear different things about his birds. any particular of his lines they came from?


no this hen came with she will be 1 of the foundation hens of your loft.their was some paper work with her but did not hold on to it as usual.sorry that's all i can say
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Posted 3 February 2013 - 01:41 AM

i had birds from john in 70 80 90s and they done well , john had them of all the principal busschaerts every one of them and a better collection of the best could not be amased outside john crowders lofts . john is a gentleman and was agood freind to myself and also gifted some of his best birds . his prices were also working mans and were all same price.

have always found john to be STB

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Posted 3 February 2013 - 09:10 AM

Have paid a visit on more than one occasion to the man to see his wonderful family of Pluto's, Crayonne's, Little Blacks. He may not be the most receptive man, until he gets to know you but thereafter,to me, he's been a good friend. I know sometime ago in one of the Squills books he had his family of directs that he owned but as to how much now they are removed now, I certainly wouldn't know.

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Posted 3 February 2013 - 10:28 AM

thanks lads,
i knew he was in poor health, Alan, i'd actually been informed that he was putting the lot up for sale a while back but it never transpired. so look, a visit won't go amiss and as you all say he is worth meeting. good tales to tell. i hope he has a large tea pot.

Bill.

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Posted 3 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

View Postmaricelbill, on 3 February 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

thanks lads,
i knew he was in poor health, Alan, i'd actually been informed that he was putting the lot up for sale a while back but it never transpired. so look, a visit won't go amiss and as you all say he is worth meeting. good tales to tell. i hope he has a large tea pot.

Bill.

bill when i took my mate to see John i asked John to give my mate a tip John,s reply was have yer got a scrapper my mate replied yes john said throw it away the man is a pure genius and a true gent make no mistake he still has the best lines although now they be inbred remember also he had over 80 dirrect from buscheart
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Posted 3 February 2013 - 12:04 PM

i would think john has had many more good responses then bad, ask most and they say his name if you want quality busshies..

i have a few direct and also a few thats come off his birds sold to other sources.

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Posted 3 February 2013 - 21:25 PM

View PostT_T, on 3 February 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

Have paid a visit on more than one occasion to the man to see his wonderful family of Pluto's, Crayonne's, Little Blacks. He may not be the most receptive man, until he gets to know you but thereafter,to me, he's been a good friend. I know sometime ago in one of the Squills books he had his family of directs that he owned but as to how much now they are removed now, I certainly wouldn't know.


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Posted 3 February 2013 - 22:03 PM

View Postmaricelbill, on 3 February 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

thanks lads,
i knew he was in poor health, Alan, i'd actually been informed that he was putting the lot up for sale a while back but it never transpired. so look, a visit won't go amiss and as you all say he is worth meeting. good tales to tell. i hope he has a large tea pot.

Bill.

think that might have been me that said john was selling most of his birds was only going by what john had said on phone


View Poststrapper, on 3 February 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

i would think john has had many more good responses then bad, ask most and they say his name if you want quality busshies..

i have a few direct and also a few thats come off his birds sold to other sources.

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Posted 4 February 2013 - 16:23 PM

yup! it sure was <_<

no harm that's life.

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Posted 7 February 2013 - 01:04 AM

this is a pedigree of a pigeon my freind john crowder gave me about 15 yrs back the pigeon is rapido 63 ;the favourit::

he breed lot of good birds for me and other fanciers .


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Posted 7 February 2013 - 01:09 AM

View Poststb-, on 7 February 2013 - 01:04 AM, said:

this is a pedigree of a pigeon my freind john crowder gave me about 15 yrs back the pigeon is rapido 63 ;the favourit::

he breed lot of good birds for me and other fanciers .


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anything left off that line now ?? :emoticon-0138-thinking:
"north wales novice" no longer .

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Posted 7 February 2013 - 01:13 AM

View Postandy Burgess, on 7 February 2013 - 00:09 AM, said:

anything left off that line now ?? :emoticon-0138-thinking:

yes andy still got some m8 a son and 2 grandsons were stolen in december from stock loft , but a good few grand children still kicking around ,

i crossed em with my little black birds from my old no 1 pair which were booth grand children of little black . :emoticon-0167-beer: :emoticon-0140-rofl:

i think the favourit breed 1990 was the last one from rapido 76 and his hen at 16 yrs old

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