alex wight Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I,ve just done a wee table which shows birds sent, timed ect ect. Some details missing but will up date when i get them, it gives a bit of an indication on how the young bird national unfolds according to sections. alexYOUNG BIRD NATIONAL DETAILS.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cawdy Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 surely there are options available to even up the odds as the results show that there is an advantage to certain areas separate regional liberation might be a possibility. but with the weather we are having there is the possibility that the later libs could run into bad weather or not even be able to be liberated at all another possible option could be an alternate measurement system as from the results it would seem that the birds aren't following the predicted route? i herd a few people saying that you either send to the race and accept that your at a disadvantage. or DONT send surely there a better option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bernie w Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 i have spoken to guys that have done well in the respective young bird nationals be it the snfc or snrpc ,there is guys down the eyemouth area that just train their youngsters and jump them into the national and have won with em and sone have only had one race then in and done very well yet youngsters from the west with plenty of experience are miles behind these so call inexperienced birds from an easy area ,which absolutely prove 100% its all to do with location especialy in the y/bs . Completely correct Stuart and it is the same all the way up the east. Although working overseas I managed to score in most yb nationals I sent however am struggling since moving back from Peterhead to Lesmahagow. Examples 1st Section Cheltenham 375miles one race from 90 miles. 2nd Section Redditch one race 52miles and the year I moved I was 11th section 72nd open Leicester no races two tosses from 60miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Interesting table and some very interesting posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiedoo. Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Completely correct Stuart and it is the same all the way up the east. Although working overseas I managed to score in most yb nationals I sent however am struggling since moving back from Peterhead to Lesmahagow. Examples 1st Section Cheltenham 375miles one race from 90 miles. 2nd Section Redditch one race 52miles and the year I moved I was 11th section 72nd open Leicester no races two tosses from 60miles you must of been some doo man cause nobody else up here can or could do that . i have flown well we my auld doos for the last few years but with the youngsters i have sent to the YBN 3 or 4 times and not got one in race time that i can think of . saying that i dont have the same motivation for youngsters . maybe you could enlighten us up here in how to do it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 you must of been some doo man cause nobody else up here can or could do that . i have flown well we my auld doos for the last few years but with the youngsters i have sent to the YBN 3 or 4 times and not got one in race time that i can think of . saying that i dont have the same motivation for youngsters . maybe you could enlighten us up here in how to do it ??simples easy doon the coast Robbie pmsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterbmasson Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Interesting table and some very interesting posts Lewis sort oot the east and west rubbish , also the chaff fa the corn ,TIME FOR A REAL NATIONAL OSLO , DOOS UP AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE , AND A REAL GOLD CUP CHAMPION , STOP A THIS BICKERING , only one hold up no advantage ta na body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 spot on Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 i understand this one straight off , but would like to ask this , we have a long standing member of our club and fed who occasionaly only sends to 1 of the shorter yb races ,then hits our fed open race (over 200 miles) often getting a very good position and sometime winning it ,then a week later does the yb national , again doing very , very well . whats your opinion on this Rooster ??Andy ,If the Guy you are talking about is Graham! this man only trains from gifford 15 mls for the nationals and has been 2nd/3rd open in the gold cup ,because he is a farm worker he has no time to train his birds so just sends when he can to the races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry h Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 simples easy doon the coast Robbie pmsl Hi Alan, if it's simples down the east coast you should do ok this year when you join the National,your only 13.88 miles from the east coast and I should do even better because I'm only 11.98 milesfrom the east coast. :emoticon-0140-rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 maybe , but i believe him to be totally honest ,and from replies "dont think so" i also know his working hours and would find it really hard to find when he would have the time to get much if any training in to be honest ?? Andy ,If the Guy you are talking about is Graham! this man only trains from gifford 15 mls for the nationals and has been 2nd/3rd open in the gold cup ,because he is a farm worker he has no time to train his birds so just sends when he can to the races.you know it is Colin , see my other post above . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMS Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 simples easy doon the coast Robbie pmsl There were 15 pigeons timmed in section G before a pigeon was timmed in section E at Last years YBN Allan.The results are there for all to see.The West has no chance what so ever against the East at this race mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 you know it is Colin , see my other post above . Andy it`s a pity you never met his mother she was incredible at picking your pool pigeon just by looking in your basket an incredible lady and the nat positions they won were also incredible. I put a proposal for our fed to go a bit farther with the yb`s but nobody interested , it is already a very hard area to fly into but to expect them to jump 80/90mls we get what we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 your right john and not just the yb nat its the same in the ob nat as well apart from an odd one or two in a west wind east sect birds are normally one hour in front of the west sect winner wee must be keeping monkeys though here only fair race in snfc program is ypresur wrong look at first inland national last five years and our records as good as anybodys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Would like to see a national programme follow the line of flight of Ypres think the results would be a lot different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Andy it`s a pity you never met his mother she was incredible at picking your pool pigeon just by looking in your basket an incredible lady and the nat positions they won were also incredible. I put a proposal for our fed to go a bit farther with the yb`s but nobody interested , it is already a very hard area to fly into but to expect them to jump 80/90mls we get what we get.yes Colin , ive heard she was a legend .ask Spider about his poolers , said a few times ,did you "pool" such and such , er no ,why ? says he , me "it will win tommorow" ,he,s lost out a few times for not listening to me ,but its been to my benefit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JADE Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Would like to see a national programme follow the line of flight of Ypres think the results would be a lot different Line of flight from Ypres to where and what do you suggest for racepoints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 sorry, i had done distances and loft locations, but its been lost in cyberland :-(YOUNG BIRD NATIONAL DETAILS.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Hi Alan, if it's simples down the east coast you should do ok this year when you join the National,your only 13.88 miles from the east coast and I should do even better because I'm only 11.98 milesfrom the east coast. :emoticon-0140-rofl:but you got overfly off me and you admitted you fly less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Line of flight from Ypres to where and what do you suggest for racepointsbelgium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 belgiumyoull do for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 sorry, i had done distances and loft locations, but its been lost in cyberland :-( jeez SEC E and F very seldom on result with quite a reasonable sized birdage sect g has a lot on result with only a fraction of the birds sent . just shows easy oozy B to G on the sea :emoticon-0140-rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 thats because they have nice line to follow all the way home its called the coast they cannae go wrong lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Reid Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 thats because they have nice line to follow all the way home its called the coast they cannae go wrong lol :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0137-clapping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naedoos Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 As someone stated earlier on here, "simples". Train yer bird tae fly dog-legs, n they will fly dog-legs. Train them tae fly straight lines, then maybe ye hae a chance, thousands o birds entered, only one can win Course ye can always move tae the coast n make it easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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