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#1 User is offline   blaz 

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Posted 3 November 2012 - 23:21 PM

in your opinion what would get you vote for the best strain of racing pigeons. if you put a post up only mention 1 strain and the distance you find that strain good at some fanciers might need to mention 2 strains .as may be crossing to strains serve their purpose it might make good reading and be helpful to some other fanciers.as a wide variety of members are on that race birds all over UK and Ireland. at sprint /middle/long distance in club fed and national level.


i would give van loons my vote as race well enough for me from 60 to 400 miles
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Posted 4 November 2012 - 20:10 PM

Got to be busschaurts 60 miles to 550 great all rounders

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Posted 4 November 2012 - 20:16 PM

Busschaerts for me
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Posted 4 November 2012 - 20:23 PM

Is there in fact a real so called "strain"? I do think there's to much things that can be easily manipulated to make a so called "strain". There's no one looking after any pairing or offspring, no dna or what so ever. Maybe I sound negative, but I had this trouble with a bought de rouw sablon. The top cock Locco was steriel and just had 2 proven offspring. He was in my peds of 2 birds I bought for 700 pounds. So, just wundering whats worth a ped or so called strain.....

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Posted 4 November 2012 - 20:50 PM

Jan Aardens 500+ miles
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Posted 4 November 2012 - 21:02 PM

View PostGerard, on 4 November 2012 - 20:23 PM, said:

Is there in fact a real so called "strain"? I do think there's to much things that can be easily manipulated to make a so called "strain". There's no one looking after any pairing or offspring, no dna or what so ever. Maybe I sound negative, but I had this trouble with a bought de rouw sablon. The top cock Locco was steriel and just had 2 proven offspring. He was in my peds of 2 birds I bought for 700 pounds. So, just wundering whats worth a ped or so called strain.....


As you say , there can never be a strain as such, just birds cobbled together from someone but some people are better than others at it, guess that's why we know them by name
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Posted 4 November 2012 - 21:03 PM

View PostGerard, on 4 November 2012 - 20:23 PM, said:

Is there in fact a real so called "strain"? I do think there's to much things that can be easily manipulated to make a so called "strain". There's no one looking after any pairing or offspring, no dna or what so ever. Maybe I sound negative, but I had this trouble with a bought de rouw sablon. The top cock Locco was steriel and just had 2 proven offspring. He was in my peds of 2 birds I bought for 700 pounds. So, just wundering whats worth a ped or so called strain.....

probably not so many true "strains" i agree , i have a multitude of diffrent names here , but if i am honest ,if i like the pigeon and if its won ,regardless of name , i am happy :emoticon-0157-sun:
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Posted 4 November 2012 - 21:28 PM

Someone has been kidding you. There are no such things as the strains which have been kept alive and kicking for years and years. If you are interested in finding good birds you should go to a current racing loft that is doing well right now and get your birds from there. The idea of advertising strains of pigeons with the names of long dead Fanciers is a device to sell pigeons. The only thing to watch when you look for a good modern loft is to make sure you buy birds suited to your type of racing. If you want sprinters it is no use buying stayers unless you want to spend time changing them to what you need them to do.

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Posted 4 November 2012 - 21:48 PM

View Postblaz, on 3 November 2012 - 22:21 PM, said:

in your opinion what would get you vote for the best strain of racing pigeons. if you put a post up only mention 1 strain and the distance you find that strain good at some fanciers might need to mention 2 strains .as may be crossing to strains serve their purpose it might make good reading and be helpful to some other fanciers.as a wide variety of members are on that race birds all over UK and Ireland. at sprint /middle/long distance in club fed and national level.


i would give van loons my vote as race well enough for me from 60 to 400 miles


theirs me thinking this would be easy to understand
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Posted 4 November 2012 - 21:58 PM

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Posted 4 November 2012 - 22:57 PM

busschaerts, The old lines from first race till last. Rawle nd thomson, kirby blues. wish i still had them.lol

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Posted 4 November 2012 - 23:18 PM

View Postblaz, on 3 November 2012 - 23:21 PM, said:

in your opinion what would get you vote for the best strain of racing pigeons. if you put a post up only mention 1 strain and the distance you find that strain good at some fanciers might need to mention 2 strains .as may be crossing to strains serve their purpose it might make good reading and be helpful to some other fanciers.as a wide variety of members are on that race birds all over UK and Ireland. at sprint /middle/long distance in club fed and national level.


i would give van loons my vote as race well enough for me from 60 to 400 miles


Gary to me a strain would be a line of winning pigeon or pigeons your family descended from, and continue to win for yourself through generations. There are many winning strains all over the UK and Ireland purposely bred by the individual, all from top breeders from the UK and the continent.
so what im trying to say is that your van loons are a strain developed by yourself for your own requirements and have served you well. Same with anyone buying , say a busschaert,Aarden or any other for that matter. We all develope our own strain.

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Posted 4 November 2012 - 23:52 PM

Owen you're an old cynic, I must say I don't disagree with any of your posts I read, but I know you have worked hard to get the sprint family you have now, If I were advising a newbie/youngster starting up today I would definitely advise to go for a "strain", this starting with odd birds, donations from good hearted fanciers must be the worst possible start and the surest way to put people off staying in the sport, That way they are always starting at the beginning, with a "strain" at least you have a foot on the ladder
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Posted 5 November 2012 - 02:08 AM

View PostGerard, on 4 November 2012 - 20:23 PM, said:

Is there in fact a real so called "strain"? I do think there's to much things that can be easily manipulated to make a so called "strain". There's no one looking after any pairing or offspring, no dna or what so ever. Maybe I sound negative, but I had this trouble with a bought de rouw sablon. The top cock Locco was steriel and just had 2 proven offspring. He was in my peds of 2 birds I bought for 700 pounds. So, just wundering whats worth a ped or so called strain.....


the famous locco sorry to hear you got done with that one there will be a lot more loccos in the near future i think

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Posted 5 November 2012 - 15:52 PM

the birds from Benny Steveninck will make a decent impact i think where he breeds most of birds around his bird chipo

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Posted 6 November 2012 - 15:57 PM

busschaerts for me the strain birds been in my family for years way before i was born my nans side family her dad grandad uncles all raced busschaerts they had theres direct from george himself all best.

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Posted 6 November 2012 - 19:16 PM

Strain/famillys depend on what distance you want to race at IMO

Lambrechects or SVR 0 - 250 miles

Frans Zwols - 100 - 400 miles

Rutz & Son for long distance racing
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Posted 6 November 2012 - 20:53 PM

View Postjohn@formula 1 lofts, on 6 November 2012 - 19:16 PM, said:

Strain/famillys depend on what distance you want to race at IMO

Lambrechects or SVR 0 - 250 miles

Frans Zwols - 100 - 400 miles

Rutz & Son for long distance racing


Never heard of them John is there any articles online about this family/strain of pigeon?

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Posted 6 November 2012 - 20:58 PM

View Postgeordie1234, on 6 November 2012 - 20:53 PM, said:

Never heard of them John is there any articles online about this family/strain of pigeon?



german birds they race from barca

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Posted 6 November 2012 - 21:00 PM

View Postjust ask me, on 6 November 2012 - 20:58 PM, said:

german birds they race from barca

I'm on google just now trying to find some stuff, many miles fae barca to them in Germany Jam?

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