Guest stb- Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I bought some 10% iodine yesterday from the farm shop £7-95 for 500ml and had a look on the internet about iodine and it said not to use internely its to strong you should use lugols iodine can anyone clarify this1 ml to a litre would seem a horendous dose i only put a few drops in when i use it and only use lugols . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Old Hands Tonic 3 tbsn or 50 mls parishies chemical food3 tbsn or 55 mls cytacon b123 tbsn or 55 mls liquid liver ( Red Cell ) 1 tea spoon or 5mls lugols iodinemix the above together add water and make up to 1 pint...give to the birds 7 ml per pint of water 1 pint of tonic makes up 81 pints of water Works out at £2.74 for 1 pint which treats 81 pints of water Keep in fridge give Wednesdays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba1 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 What % lugols iodine is best and what percent do I mix it many thsnks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOMER49 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 on the lugols bottle it recommends 2 to 4 drops per gallon it is obviously very strong on the birds and can damage them if over dose with it hence I'm going back to the old hands tonic which uses very little and works out as a very cheap tonic HiMy bottle of lugols states 2/4 drops per PINT from HyperdrugCheersHomer 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOMER49 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 on the lugols bottle it recommends 2 to 4 drops per gallon it is obviously very strong on the birds and can damage them if over dose with it hence I'm going back to the old hands tonic which uses very little and works out as a very cheap tonic HiMy bottle of lugols states 2/4 drops per PINT from Hyperdrug Same as yours 100ml bottleCheersHomer 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCHEQHEN Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Lugols iodine - varies greatly in strength - on eBay alone - and these are only the strengths I have been able to find - vary from 3% to 15% (with 7% and 12% also available) Although the above mention the strength - they do not mention any breakdown of the components The one I have I think is 2% iodine and 1% Potassium iodide. Does that constitute a 3% strength? The answer is 'I don't know' - to be truthful The instructions on the bottle I have states 1 teaspoon to a gallon (a teaspoon is usually 5 mls and a gallon is 8 pints - or 4.5 litres - so that is just under 1 ml per litre - 5/8ths of a millilitre to 1 pint - a 1ml syringe would give you an accurate dosing measure - I keep a variety of sizes of syringes for accurate measuring ) A US Gallon is smaller by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 I don't use Lugols Iodine any more because it is water soluble and can easily be watered down. I use aqueous iodine from the Chemist because this is produced for humans and subject the regulations. Few Chemists keep it in stock so you would usually have to order it. The dilution rate is 5ml (one teaspoon) to a gallon of water. Use it once or twice a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodedclaw Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I was told to get flagyl tablets for canker will they do the same jobThanks jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chad3646 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 wherever there is an undue proportion of birds found dead in the shell, iodine deficiency should be considered as one of the possible causes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 wherever there is an undue proportion of birds found dead in the shell, iodine deficiency should be considered as one of the possible causes.Read an article some time ago that anyone living near the coast that there's enough iodine in the sea air :emoticon-0138-thinking: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chad3646 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 greenlands i believe you get iodine from seaweed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 greenlands i believe you get iodine from seaweed ?Correct mate,I believe you can buy grit with seaweed ?? in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 since you popped this up I have got all the ingredients for the old hand iodine tonic which I intend to use , there are other tonics on the market which are pretty similar , I have worked things out and come up with this recipe : 3 tbsn or 50 mls parishies chemical food3 tbsn or 55 mls cytacon b123 tbsn or 55 mls liquid liver ( Red Cell ) 1 tea spoon or 5mls lugols iodinemix the above together add water and make up to 1 pint...give to the birds 7 ml per pint of water 1 pint of tonic makes up 81 pints of water Keep in fridge give Wednesdays http://www.aviform.co.uk/?shop=shopitems/force.12.dmg.pre.race.booster.for.racing.pigeons.2401.aspxhttp://www.pet-supermarket.co.uk/Products/CN0418/red-cell-equine-supplementhttp://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Lugols-Aqueous-Iodine-100ml/productinfo/LUGOLS/http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Parrishs-Food-250ml/productinfo/PARRISHS/ Birds look a picture and condition is excellent I remember Barry McNicholas swearing by this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Over the millions of years the rock dove developed they were never short of minerals including salt or iodine because they tended to live near the sea and would drink brackish water and could peck about in the grit and sand on the shore which ensured that they had a ready supply of calcium. It was a similar situation with oxygen. They certainly did not have draft proof lofts with central heating or conversely lofts with ammonia fumes wafting around them. I think this should give us all a clue as to how we should treat and house our birds.I believe that modern racing pigeons are ruined by enclosing them in airless lofts, without adequate supplies of minerals and grits and denying them essential things like iodine. I often find it amazing that people will spend small fortunes on expensive food but fail to realise that pigeons need to be supplied with these other things to attain top condition. The clue lies in watching the behavior of pigeons at breeding time. They will show you that they crave grit and clay by the way they eat it. Then there the hens that either lay soft shelled eggs or suffer with egg binding which are both sure signs of mineral deficiency in the majority of cases. Many birds delay laying their eggs and in some cases the laying of the colony is spread out over a considerable time often stretching into weeks and even then there is often a lot of infertile eggs. All these things are affected by an inadequate diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 yes Condi Crystals used to be a well used product for a few thing going back, I still use it twice a week in the drinker, wouldn't be without it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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