fred smyth Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 usb microscope just seen lidl are doing a usb microscope on the 10th of dec, for £29.00 , if any one is looking one get there early they will go fast, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac1 Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 are they any good??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fred smyth Posted December 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 i would think they would be ok for what we would use them for, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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REDCHEQHEN Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 i would think they would be ok for what we would use them for, I can't find anything on Lidl website - but I don't think they will be good enough - I don't think they will have the magnification you require (x100 & x400) - the better ones aren't a lot more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred smyth Posted December 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 ? ? what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred smyth Posted December 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 its 20 by 129 4x10x40 is that not good enough ,i dont know myself, maby someone dose , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCHEQHEN Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 its 20 by 129 4x10x40 is that not good enough ,i dont know myself, maby someone dose , Have you got a leaflet - or is it on a website? If the magnification only goes up to x40 its no good - they do others that go up to x1280 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred smyth Posted December 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 magnification it says 20x129x magnification 4x10x40 objective lens i dont no but at that price ill give it a go just told the wife to put it on my xmass list :) :) :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showman Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 ? ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCHEQHEN Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 You (or your wife) may be wasting your money I got a similar one to this at Lidl for £39 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bresser-BioLux-AL-Microscope-20X-1280X_W0QQitemZ320456518884QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Scientific_MJ?hash=item4a9cb26ce4 I say similar - mine was a better model than this with a mechanical stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 A better starter kit is the one below from brunel. At £80 http://www.brunelmicroscopes.co.uk/coccidiosis.html As with everything the more you spend the better the quality. Brunel have some really good quality microscopes as they go up in price, and at the end of the day they are a microscope specialist where as lidls is a food store. The advantage of brunel is they are experts in the field of microscopes. jas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCHEQHEN Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 A better starter kit is the one below from brunel. At £80 http://www.brunelmicroscopes.co.uk/coccidiosis.html As with everything the more you spend the better the quality. Brunel have some really good quality microscopes as they go up in price, and at the end of the day they are a microscope specialist where as lidls is a food store. The advantage of brunel is they are experts in the field of microscopes. jas. What utter tosh (sorry to disagree with you again (evil) ) I got the Brunel microscope first it cost me over £100 - and I thought it was rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 What utter tosh (sorry to disagree with you again (evil) ) I got the Brunel microscope first it cost me over £100 - and I thought it was rubbish Just saying its better quality than the lidls , I have seen both. Personally i wouldnt use either as im fortunate to own a lab spec microscope and you get what you pay for, its all about the quality of the lenses. The question asked was what are the lidls microscopes like and i personally think the brunel ones are slightly better build quality. but for some one starting out in the world of microscope use they are ok. When you get more involved you will always buy a better model. Neither contain oil immersion lenses so bacterial testing is out of the question but for starter scopes they get you use to what you are looking at. jas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiedoo. Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 can someone put up a link to the one lidl sells so i can show the wife what to get me for xmas . thanks robbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lenwadebob Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Can someone with knowledge of microscope use and testing, please put up the required specifications needed to test, and also where you can get test slides/pictures of the diseases/ailments pigeons have. Also a link to how you go about testing for various illnesses etc, i.e procedures, things required to prepare specimens for testing. This is all new to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Can someone with knowledge of microscope use and testing, please put up the required specifications needed to test, and also where you can get test slides/pictures of the diseases/ailments pigeons have. Also a link to how you go about testing for various illnesses etc, i.e procedures, things required to prepare specimens for testing. This is all new to me. Thats a lot of questions and not that simple to answer in one go. below is some photos i have taken with my microscope, these are going to be part of an instructional dvd im putting together on microscope use. they will hopefully explain some of the questions you asked. Hi mate. I have been using a microscope now for a couple of years and have had the pleasure of studying with one of the top pigeon vets in the uk. below are some images i have taken from my microscope over the years, hopefully these will try and give you an idea of what you are looking at. There are 2 ways to examine dropping samples under a microscope: 1st is the smear method, by smearing the sample on to the slide and adding a small amount of water to it then add the cover slip, this method is more difficult to read for a beginner as you will have all the waste food and proteins etc to look through. 2nd and my preferred method is to float the sample in a heavy salt solution for 20 minutes, this cause the debris to fall to the bottom and the eggs rise to the top. These samples are 100x magnification ( 10x objective lens with a 10x eye piece) but you are seeing an image in the photos of more like 300x as i have a video camera attached to the lens of the microscope and the lens of the camcorder is also magnifying the image. Worms and cocci i like to use X100 as above, canker x400, hexamiter x600. I am in the process of making an instructional dvd on microscope use which will explain in detail how to use a microscope, When it is finished i will put it up for sale on this site. hope this helps. Jas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lenwadebob Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Brilliant response Jas. Thanks. Put me down for one of your DVD's when it is completed - Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 i got one the last they were on sale at lidils. for the money [£29] and what we need it for its brill Yeah your right, they get you into microscope use at a very cheap price, you are restricted at what you can do with them, but once you get hooked on microscope use like some of us you will go on to get a better quality one with more features. but for the price they are very useful. cost the same as an average droppings test from a qualified vet. once you get use to using one it opens up a whole new world of understanding on how to keep pigeons healthy and what your management is like. good luck with the use. If you need any questions answered then just drop me a pm and i'll do my best to answer them. jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just ask me Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 brillant post some real clear pics put my name down too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulkie Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 i got one from lidl the last time they were on sale. there not great but u can pick up the cocci eggs. and hair and round worm +adult worm .i just smear the droping on the slide and put a small glass slide on top, witch can be bought crude but works for me .i know u have to use a swab in the throat but not tried that yet .i to would,nt mind buying ur dvd as well. i.ll have 1 too jas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fits Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Please can you tell me which is best for pigeon testing 20x 1028 or 40x 1028. Thanks Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fits Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Please can you tell me which is best for pigeon testing 20x 1028 or 40x 1028. Thanks Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest strapper Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 i bought a microscope from a bootsale for £3..a metal cast one. it only goes upto 300x...so ive already on the look out for something much more stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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