Mealy Cock Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 The most famous Delbar was King Pin a lot of the old lines have this bird in them
Guest bakes Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 The most famous Delbar was King Pin a lot of the old lines have this bird in them any info lads lasses about king pin much aprreciated all the best bakes.
Mealy Cock Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 If my memory serves me right, King Pin was the Barcelona Int winner for Mons Delbar Any avid Delbar fan may still have this blood lines in their lofts, I will dig out my books at some stage for more info.
Guest bakes Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 If my memory serves me right, King Pin was the Barcelona Int winner for Mons Delbar Any avid Delbar fan may still have this blood lines in their lofts, I will dig out my books at some stage for more info. thanks for the info mate much apreciated.
Guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 The Delbar strain's name today derives mainly from Maurice Delbar who succeeded a famous father Oscar in the sport and even before the carnage of the First World War the name was a noted one amongst the European pigeon racing fraternity. This family of pigeons had reaped numerous wins at distances of between 400 and 700 miles and after the war ended the family went unto further glory, especially throughout the period of approximately 20 years - 1919 until 1939. A key factor of their success was the crossing of some birds into the family from a Mr. De Peeter's loft from Puttee not far from Mechelin. Thus lay the basis of the strain: the pre-war Delbar family and the post- war input from the Peeter's. It must be stated, however, that the crosses into the Delbar's were few at this time. However, upon its arrival, the strain took the pigeon racing world by storm and success flourished not only for the master himself but for hundreds of disciples from throughout the whole of pigeondom. In fact in my childhood and youth I heard only of the Delbar's, the Hansenne's and the Putman's in that order as being the major sources of pigeon racing success. In 1937 Delbar won the Barcelona marathon and approximately 10 years later, 1948, the Barcelona race was won by a 100% Delbar raced by the famous Berlengee. Numerous other fanciers throughout the planet won other distance, and indeed shorter races, too numerous to mention but the whole phenomenon reflected the impact of this unique strain on the world pigeon racing community. In fact the Berlangee win led to the coining of the phrase - 'the Berlangee Delbar grizzles' but in reality Delbar had grizzles in his family long before this. One of his greatest pigeons called the Little Chequer, which had won two Belgium nationals and also had a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th and a 10th National to its credit, was paired to a grizzle which Delbar purchased from a fancier who lived in his locality. The latter pair bred winners and racers for Delbar and many other fanciers. Inspite of much searching, I have failed to discover the name of the local fancier. We should also acknowledge that the Jan Aarden dynasty was based upon a number of Delbar pigeons amongst others and that the Delbar strain has influenced other modern pigeon racing strains such as the Jos Thone's. In fact Piet de Weerd had supplied Aarden with a Delbar which lay at the base of the latter's strain. As for the successful grizzles of the Thone strain, some contained Delbar genes. One of the many successful areas of the Delbar strain was in Germany and (on one focus) Thomas Peeters at a distance of over 560 miles won 1st national St. Vincent twice with the same pigeon. This famous cock was born in 1970 and apparently derived from a Delbar grizzle hen known as the Golden Grizzle. A grand son of the Golden Grizzle, which carried the reputation as one of the best breeding hens ever, in 1977, was 1st National Ace Pigeon long distance and also 3rd National Ace Pigeon long distance in the hot bed of German long- distance racing. And it is reported today via the internet, etc., that the Delbar grizzles are still winning within Germany National prizes, especially from Marseilles and Barcelona. Delbar eventually brought in many crosses but his strain through his husbandry remained phenotypical and it was a strain that many fanciers could identify very accurately as being the work of the artist of Ronse. In truth it is a strain of which myths are spun and occupies in the fancy a honourable position amongst the greatest. Maurice Delbar Original Stock Birds The Witpen a brother of the famous Jabot, Witoog, and Witneus Goede Kweker Kleine Blauwe The Bairritz Te Dax The Bariole The Barcelona Kleine Geschelpte Goede Geschelpte Dikke Geschelpte The Derby The Princess The Goede Donkere Kweekster Witvlek Witpen Klein Juweel Goede Kweekster Bruinoog Grote Lichte Donkeroog Bariole Dikke Blauwe Slimme The Gepotlode The Dax The Standaard Kleine Blauwe The Schone Blauwe The Ballon
Guest bakes Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 thanks bob quality right up mate
Guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Posted September 9, 2009 Thanks but these are not my words. I have an avid interest in the origins of the old strains, from which all of today's modern strains derive. A great source for this information comes from the series of books call "The History of the Belgian Strains"
Shortcut Lofts Posted September 9, 2009 Report Posted September 9, 2009 Where did you find them mate? Picture 1 i think i sold for Steve Picture 3 i know i sold for Steve Picture 4 - Delbar??? - I think the bird is owned by Gaz Jennings - I know Gaz has some cracking delbar (from Steve and other sources) 2nd cock was sold in my sale in Blackpool last year. Gaz bought him. Highest priced in the sale. Good reports of winners bred from my Delbars out of the sale this year. Winning from 60 miles. Eamon
Shortcut Lofts Posted September 9, 2009 Report Posted September 9, 2009 No bother Chris, as Char is doing a great job on the site i would gladly send you something to try out. Eamon
Red cheq Posted February 16, 2022 Report Posted February 16, 2022 I was wondering is the delbar lines still about nowadays
sapper756 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Posted February 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Red cheq said: I was wondering is the delbar lines still about nowadays I have brought a Loft Article of Dave Coulman to the top of the board, I believe he has the Delbar strain.
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