Roland Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Well our Fed's top flyer, in the Fed and Alga, and certainly at the distance, breeds so many, about 24 y/b's and as I've said before, returns spare youngsters etc. each season to the original guy he had thes off. Yes of course, as alwas gives to any needy fancier. This year he's only breeding 12 tops... buying again from Louella as he needs introduction again he feels. Yes has also very often bought in from there and had great results. Yes has tried others over the last 47 years, but none he says have ever been anywhere near as good as the Bussearts. Yes he is in the position to buy he best. But as he says, Louella's are a fraction onf the price and are as good as any. Yes the other sauce he started last time with devastioning effects were intro's from a good fancier in Newark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 ALAN if my memory serves me right did geff horn not buy that BIRDS OFF THE newton pair of birds and won every thing with them and moved up into Scotland and won a SNFC national There was more than one pair , newton pair , wilkinson pair , broken keel cock , Crayonne and many more my mate in Wales bought Bushaerts from Dr J.J Horn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton moore Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Well our Fed's top flyer, in the Fed and Alga, and certainly at the distance, breeds so many, about 24 y/b's and as I've said before, returns spare youngsters etc. each season to the original guy he had thes off. Yes of course, as alwas gives to any needy fancier. This year he's only breeding 12 tops... buying again from Louella as he needs introduction again he feels. Yes has also very often bought in from there and had great results. Yes has tried others over the last 47 years, but none he says have ever been anywhere near as good as the Bussearts. Yes he is in the position to buy he best. But as he says, Louella's are a fraction onf the price and are as good as any. Yes the other sauce he started last time with devastioning effects were intro's from a good fancier in Newark. Its true Luella Busschaerts are a fraction of the price but if your pal paid that little bit extra he would do murder, the Pearson and Dransfield Busschaerts are 10 times better.My speciallist subject on mastermind was Remi George Busschaert.Ask me any question on George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 i think the best busschaerts are kavaghan busschaerts just ask tt on here they will win from 95ml to 500ml my yearling will go to clearmount 450ml tt flew in the same club as george busschaert and he told me his kavaghan birds are the best pigeons he has ever had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton moore Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Kavanagh Busschaerts are crosses, Busshaert X FVW.Scotlnds one loft race 2009 was won by one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 i no my mate bred it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Kavanagh Busschaerts are crosses, Busshaert X FVW.Scotlnds one loft race 2009 was won by one. kavanagh originals are busschaerts they introduced the fvw later on yes they were good but they could'nt hold a candle to the john tray john knighton busschaerts these men along with john lynas were the best in our area.fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest southern and mason Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 kavanagh originals are wildamech x busschaerts (a dnt think its spelt right) then they become kavanagh pigeons. hindmarsh had the best ov them then a mink got in and killed the stock pigeons my m8 bought the last son off the main pair and he still got it its spitin winners out and anuv lad that flys in my fed has got the best ov hindmarsh aswell crossed wit ther own busschaerts ther the top lads in the fed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 kavanagh originals are busschaerts they introduced the fvw later on yes they were good but they could'nt hold a candle to the john tray john knighton busschaerts these men along with john lynas were the best in our area.fact correct davey i think you will find that a lot desended from soderlands lofts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton moore Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 In a competition of excellance there is only a cigarett papers width between one loft and another.John Tray, John Lynas and the Knighton family aces everyone but to suggest not being able to hold candles to them is icing the cake a smidge.The original Kavanagh Busschaerts were pure.But the better ones were crosses FVW X Bussaerts from John Soderland.Thats also true of the mink getting into Pert Hindmarshes loft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Its true Luella Busschaerts are a fraction of the price but if your pal paid that little bit extra he would do murder, the Pearson and Dransfield Busschaerts are 10 times better.My speciallist subject on mastermind was Remi George Busschaert.Ask me any question on George Sorry, have to disagree. He flies the best, and wins and is tops. A shrewed buisness brain and has done all the eating. Outside of Louella the best are Turners without a shaddow of doubt. To win say lerwicke Almagation by over 2 hours from the eicetser birds etc. by two hours, two seasons running and nigh ever distance as such is prove. Had the pick of Frankie Georges including Morning Cloud etc. and none as good as Louella's Bussearts. Says now he has the best birds he has ever had. Paying for a 'Nmae' doesn't improvethe birds. Louella's preformances obtained are the proof of the eating. Besides MOST flying 'Strains' that excelled bought of Louella... Names would rather state a 'Name' instead for selling purposes. Know quite a few 'Feather' merchants selling a 'Name' and winning with other birds, which they don't, aren't and won't sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Ok George, whom did George buy his founding stock from after the war? :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Ok George, whom did George buy his founding stock from after the war? :-/ george bought off maurice delbar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Exactly, which made him very unpopular in Belguim, hence why they won't spout about his records achieved, and still held there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 find some up the write up facts different to what i was told g busheart came over to england to set up a textile factory his family owned met and became friends with Gill duncan went into partnership and brought the birds over from belg dominated the kent area sold up and went back to belg gill Duncan was a greyhound trainer Tom larkins became buschaerts agent in this country corbetts birds came from Tom Larkins probally the top breeder in the n e England where the partnership of Soderland and Bradley they bred many winners and breeders of winners parkside superman and probally one of the best the great Quosimodo of Luke Coulson and Thomson i am sure Jimmy Bambling could go alot further aswell these are just a very small insight to what was bred from them Dont forget wonderwoman and the MEW ALSO BILLY PARKS KILLYLEAGH. HAD SOME OF THE BEST GOING ASWELL MR BUSSCHAERT ETC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Exactly, which made him very unpopular in Belguim, hence why they won't spout about his records achieved, and still held there. then Roland you know what i know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Dont forget wonderwoman and the MEW ALSO BILLY PARKS KILLYLEAGH. HAD SOME OF THE BEST GOING ASWELL MR BUSSCHAERT ETC rab there are loads of quality producers remember these 2 cks where breeding fed winners for fun in very stiff competision they are just an example ;D ;D ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton moore Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 George did buy from Delbar however he didnt only buy from one fancier he bought the Klaren which cost as much as a house, in those days he did plan to pair The Klaren to the Coppi cock but as you know 2 cocks will not go together. So he paired the Klaren to the Cheq wf Sooten a dtr of the Coppi.A master stockman he dreamed of the pairings.When he first put the loft in his garden at Beverien a lot of the yb hit the wires the following year less hit the wires.Asked why he replied threr mother tells them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Tom Leadbitter has the best of peart hidmarshes and jack kavanagh birds that i no of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 In a competition of excellance there is only a cigarett papers width between one loft and another.John Tray, John Lynas and the Knighton family aces everyone but to suggest not being able to hold candles to them is icing the cake a smidge.The original Kavanagh Busschaerts were pure.But the better ones were crosses FVW X Bussaerts from John Soderland.Thats also true of the mink getting into Pert Hindmarshes loft. you have to go back awhile when they flew in same club they never once beat john tray for the club averages when trays moved to tindale in 1968 along with john lynas & john knighton was when the kavanagh's came to the fore in point of fact during the 70's they actually bought pigeons from john tray something dougie kavanagh will verify. i'm not saying they did'nt have good pigeons or they were not good flyers because they did& were. not many men talk of the trays and lynas' in the samebreath as kavanagh but these two men were the tops.tray often giving away quality pigeons rather than sell them.and his son tom is every bit as good topping the wda more times than most fanciers dream of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 George did buy from Delbar however he didnt only buy from one fancier he bought the Klaren which cost as much as a house, in those days he did plan to pair The Klaren to the Coppi cock but as you know 2 cocks will not go together. So he paired the Klaren to the Cheq wf Sooten a dtr of the Coppi.A master stockman he dreamed of the pairings.When he first put the loft in his garden at Beverien a lot of the yb hit the wires the following year less hit the wires.Asked why he replied threr mother tells them. True, It was also documented that he also had mated birds he'd never seen, but knew the history, and sold on without even seeing the youngsters that weere winners. What was the bird Gearge said was the best he ever had! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest youngzimmy Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 MORE OR LESS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT S T B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton moore Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Georges favourit was pluto although tight when he was sold George cried like a baby when he only made £820.Nero was another and was never sold.DE85 was champion race cock in 1968 but sadly hit the wires and was killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p charlton Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 what distance would the pluto lines do and does anyone sill race the lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton moore Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Its funny Pluto was a distance pigeon but his children were middle distance. If you look at the white Commines they are the same family Pluto was a Commines pigeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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