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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:12 PM

how do you train your birds for 600 odd mile race's

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:13 PM

single them up get them used to flying on there own ;)
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:15 PM

How many training tosses in a week and what sort of distance

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:21 PM

well i only train before racing and if going stale or if not racing that week but id give a few inland races prior to race then straight in but at that distance i would only fly 3 year olds but if you can single up every week 30 miles twice a week
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:28 PM

first of all you need 600 mile bloodlines,
next train single ups as yb,s as much as poss with just a few races.
as yearlings raced lightly racing them with big jumps [missing each second race]
as 2 year olds must do well from over 500 miles [roughly 5 races , b4 that.
3 year old , if their good enough,,[and still there :)] 4 races ,,a good 8 hour fly about 3 weeks b4 event ,,,,,,,,,then pray ;D ;D ;D  [in these 3 years single up training from east and west]
its very hard to get birds that will win at that distance , but if they do, and are not burnt out as yb,s yearlings , the same bird will score again and again if treated right :),, but ,,as with pigeons,, theres many ways to skin a cat ;D

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:29 PM

jimmy white said:

first of all you need 600 mile bloodlines,
next train single ups as yb,s as much as poss with just a few races.
as yearlings raced lightly racing them with big jumps [missing each second race]
as 2 year olds must do well from over 500 miles [roughly 5 races , b4 that.
3 year old , if their good enough,,[and still there :)] 4 races ,,a good 8 hour fly about 3 weeks b4 event ,,,,,,,,,then pray ;D ;D ;D  [in these 3 years single up training from east and west]
its very hard to get birds that will win at that distance , but if they do, and are not burnt out as yb,s yearlings , the same bird will score again and again if treated right :),, but ,,as with pigeons,, theres many ways to skin a cat ;D


good post Jimmy  :)
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:30 PM

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well i only train before racing and if going stale or if not racing that week but id give a few inland races prior to race then straight in but at that distance i would only fly 3 year olds but if you can single up every week 30 miles twice a week
at 30 miles  if you get the chance let them up halfe hour before  dark on the odd ocasion ,it will make them used to flying into the late hours ,and if the go down for the night they will  get up at first light to get home .ATB les.



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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:34 PM

what bloodlines
it can only get better????

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:37 PM

bird man of meath said:

what bloodlines


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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:39 PM

les said:

at 30 miles  if you get the chance let them up halfe hour before  dark on the odd ocasion ,it will make them used to flying into the late hours ,and if the go down for the night they will  get up at first light to get home .ATB les.


yip, another good tip :)

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:40 PM

bird man of meath said:

what bloodlines


there's many lines , if you get the mags, read the write ups on the long distance fancier's.

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:47 PM

i think the best lines are any birds that are bred from 600 mile prizewinners,,,, some good buys, at the end of the year with latebreds direct off the prizewinners from that distance , at pretty reasonable prices really ,,,its patience after that :)

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 22:51 PM

jimmy white said:

i think the best lines are any birds that are bred from 600 mile prizewinners,,,, some good buys, at the end of the year with latebreds direct off the prizewinners from that distance , at pretty reasonable prices really ,,,its patience after that :)


great can i book a pair? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D sorry went off topic but it pays to get in fast?

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 03:05 AM

all inportent things are blood  and feeding and do not go stuipid with the racing
distance birds have ether got it or aint tuat simple

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 20:19 PM

very good post  jimmy White

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 20:35 PM

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great can i book a pair? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D sorry went off topic but it pays to get in fast?


GET YOUR WALLET OUT ;)

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 21:16 PM

jimmy white said:

first of all you need 600 mile bloodlines,
next train single ups as yb,s as much as poss with just a few races.
as yearlings raced lightly racing them with big jumps [missing each second race]
as 2 year olds must do well from over 500 miles [roughly 5 races , b4 that.
3 year old , if their good enough,,[and still there :)] 4 races ,,a good 8 hour fly about 3 weeks b4 event ,,,,,,,,,then pray ;D ;D ;D  [in these 3 years single up training from east and west]
its very hard to get birds that will win at that distance , but if they do, and are not burnt out as yb,s yearlings , the same bird will score again and again if treated right :),, but ,,as with pigeons,, theres many ways to skin a cat ;D
good 1
jimmy can you put some informaion on feeding for a 500 600 mile race thanks

1st fed eatbourne 9th nat 1st fed ypres 18th nat1st fed marlborough 19th nat 1st fed ypres 8th nat 1st fed maidstone 16th nat 1st fed yb open newark 1st fed yb nat

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 22:04 PM

and something else you need is patients as i sit hear with pen and paper at the ready lol
1st fed eatbourne 9th nat 1st fed ypres 18th nat1st fed marlborough 19th nat 1st fed ypres 8th nat 1st fed maidstone 16th nat 1st fed yb open newark 1st fed yb nat

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 22:29 PM

hotrod said:

GET YOUR WALLET OUT ;)


ok them what?

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 22:52 PM

chris h said:

how do you train your birds for 600 odd mile race's


First off you get blood that is capable of doing well at that distance. then you let them get a sense of HOME and Contentment and a wanting to be in the safe enviroment that is their loft. Until then you'll do nowt with your birds as far as I am concerned.
A few training tosses first year as young birds. A couple of 100 -  150 milers races as yearlings. If then  they like and want to be in your' loft.... Well they be there  - all things being equeal at the end of the 600+ races.
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