airdrie2 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Hey Charlie a quick question pal , have run the winter shows for years payed out on night before any bird is checked to see it’s in the said persons name , doesn’t matter if it’s fir £5/£10 or hundreds of pounds likethe xmas race in question . You pay out on trust , now I don’t think anyone out there would argue that it the bird was raced and won money and not in participants name . We’ve all done it , u openly say my first bird on clock or whatever pigeon is debris it’s not transferred yet that’s not the problem , it’s the attitude like I don’t care I’m not paying money back is in gentlemanly conduct in anyone’s eyes .dont know the gentelman in question stewart but i do no big del is an honest man and usually crosses all the t,s and dots the i,s on every thing he does cause he knows what pigeon men are like , and yes the man in question should hand the cash back, Iam away now to try and find out who won the race last year.HOPE IT GETS SORTED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 why was this person not suspended for racing a bird not in his name has the rules changed thought this was always the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 why was this person not suspended for racing a bird not in his name has the rules changed thought this was always the caseHe is it’s no that Walter he’s thinks he’s the boy in the doo game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted November 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 why was this person not suspended for racing a bird not in his name has the rules changed thought this was always the caseHe was Walter or is but appealed it and case is waiting due to Covid . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWa Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 why was this person not suspended for racing a bird not in his name has the rules changed thought this was always the case read your shu rule book page 9 rule 5 for a 1st offence its a disqualification only ,2nd offence suspended from the 1st 5 federation races in the following year and showing for 1 year 3rd offence suspended from racing or showing for 1 year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 read your shu rule book page 9 rule 5 for a 1st offence its a disqualification only ,2nd offence suspended from the 1st 5 federation races in the following year and showing for 1 year 3rd offence suspended from racing or showing for 1 yearSo it’s ok for he to keep the money as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWa Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 So it’s ok for he to keep the money as wellwho said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWa Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 So it’s ok for he to keep the money as well read rule 11 page 12 where monies paid out in error said monies must be refunded , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 read rule 11 page 12 where monies paid out in error said monies must be refunded ,Thanks for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 read rule 11 page 12 where monies paid out in error said monies must be refunded , This rule was quoted to the fella and he still refused to pay it back. Ungentlemanly conduct to say the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 I feel for the two guys he owes the money to. To actually think that myself and the vice pres. Cammy Heeps were going to pay this money to these guys to give the fella time to pay it back, beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 read rule 11 page 12 where monies paid out in error said monies must be refunded ,Jonesybhoy your see this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie2 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 an absolute disgrace that this monie hasnt been returned and the rightfull winners not got it the man should now be ashamed of himself and all fanciers should shun him whether he thinks he is the man or not in pigeon racing its now really theft, from his fellow fanciers and if he can openly do this what else can he do or be trusted by any fancier, with no shame at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 an absolute disgrace that this monie hasnt been returned and the rightfull winners not got it the man should now be ashamed of himself and all fanciers should shun him whether he thinks he is the man or not in pigeon racing its now really theft, from his fellow fanciers and if he can openly do this what else can he do or be trusted by any fancier, with no shame at allHe’s the president of a fed as well his members must be so proud of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 He’s the president of a fed as well his members must be so proud of himSome actually are I’m afraid beggars belief . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williedoo Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 Can't be run m8, money not paid back by a member last year that raced a pigeon not in his name. Plenty have asked me to go ahead and run it but it cant go ahead. I've been offered sponsorship for it but its fked now. Can i ask, was the ring registered in someone else's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Can i ask, was the ring registered in someone else's name. The bird was not in Mr Jones name at the time of the race. Edited November 23, 2020 by Delboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williedoo Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 Yes, the bird was not in his name at the time of the race. Just wondered as i have disqualified a bird before when the SHU told me the ring had never been registered to anyone.The person the pigeon belonged to then appealed to the SHU who told me to give the pigeon it's Fed position as it was an admin mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arranview Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just wondered as i have disqualified a bird before when the SHU told me the ring had never been registered to anyone.The person the pigeon belonged to then appealed to the SHU who told me to give the pigeon it's Fed position as it was an admin mistake.Wullie thats how I'd have played it out ,I sure if said fancier knew it wasn't transferred he wouldn't have timed it let alone pool it knowing full well Del would be checking it out ,I'd have kept it quiet as its not the birds fault it done its job its owner not so much ,now the race no longer exists which is a shame as it generated some banter on here and given a few more yrs im sure it would've grown ,lets face it it was only a bit of fun over the winter months, as for cheating its hardly cheating the bird flew the race fair and square, I know its the rules they must be transferred but mistakes happen, the games hanging on by a thread lads we need to stick together more than ever now 👠Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 Ricky the cheating part is cheating the guys out the money that should have won , as I’ve already posted we’ve all done it but u put your hands up and say sorry guys my mistake . Anyway hope your well pal and as busy as me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arranview Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 Ricky the cheating part is cheating the guys out the money that should have won , as I’ve already posted we’ve all done it but u put your hands up and say sorry guys my mistake . Anyway hope your well pal and as busy as meaye mate busy busy, like I say I'd have paid it back but its no the wee doos fault ,atb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 aye mate busy busy, like I say I'd have paid it back but its no the wee doos fault ,atbWe all do this at some point . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 sorry going to lock this one now as its a case for the SHU not site members, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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