dkj Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Straight line from 2 of the races to harthill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyBhoy Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Straight line from 2 of the races to harthill Straight line from Harthill would be west of Rennes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dkj Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Straight line from Harthill would be west of RennesFalaise and tours to harthill right through Carlisle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyBhoy Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Straight line thru England then.. thats not true north to South Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkj Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Straight line thru England then.. thats not true north to SouthLol from race point to harthill that’s the straight lineAnd I would think harthill is about the Centre of Scotland from east to west Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Lol from race point to harthill that’s the straight lineAnd I would think harthill is about the Centre of Scotland from east to westPerfect then ....left or right at the coast....choice is theirs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkj Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Perfect for the solwayStill think they will stay on the east coast line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Perfect for the solwayStill think they will stay on the east coast line Cmon Davie....next ye will be telling me it's nae advantage racing frae the east up the east coast ....no matter to me I will just have tae suck it up and get on with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkj Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Cmon Davie....next ye will be telling me it's nae advantage racing frae the east up the east coast ....no matter to me I will just have tae suck it up and get on with it Of course it’s a advantage flying on the line where the national races are, every fed in Scotland are flying the east coast line And I can understand why you want them coming up the west side sitting in the solway, I always want my pigeons coming up the Eden valley and up the Hawick valley into central Scotland keeping them of the east coast But ain’t going to happen as most members are wanting that line So we need distance so they can split them up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 Did he get yer proposal in DKJ?. Will it be a postal vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adee1888 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 Dave agree gold cup should be 600 mile longest nstional 670 short ones 550 and scrap yb national and all the silly inland nationals penalty kick for the eye valley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cemetary Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 Dave agree gold cup should be 600 mile longest nstional 670 short ones 550 and scrap yb national and all the silly inland nationals penalty kick for the eye valley Too much income generated from them races mate, no way they will be scrapped from the programme. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkj Posted October 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 Dave agree gold cup should be 600 mile longest nstional 670 short ones 550 and scrap yb national and all the silly inland nationals penalty kick for the eye valley The members would never allow that program, so I’ve but a program in, Which is similar to 2019 except Reims for gold cup and Troyes for the longest race, Huntingdon instead of Buckingham Postal vote i would think 5th June Huntingdon 19th June Maidstone 25th June Reims gold cup 3rd July Ypres 10th July Troyes 17th July roye 11th or 18th September Huntingdon young bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arranview Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 Dave agree gold cup should be 600 mile longest nstional 670 short ones 550 and scrap yb national and all the silly inland nationals penalty kick for the eye valleyThe guys in the eye Valley can't help where they live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJL Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 1603908430[/url]' post='1244717']The members would never allow that program, so I’ve but a program in, Which is similar to 2019 except Reims for gold cup and Troyes for the longest race, Huntingdon instead of Buckingham Postal vote i would think 5th June Huntingdon 19th June Maidstone 25th June Reims gold cup 3rd July Ypres 10th July Troyes 17th July roye 11th or 18th September Huntingdon young bird Looks ok to me Davie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 David excellent proposal let's hope common sense prevails ✅ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Seen a thing recently about the route an Osprey took from Northern Africa to Denmark. The significant thing about the route it chose was every time it had to cross a channel/sea of water it chose the shortest possible route, even though this added to the overall distance of its flight. Imo we should learn from this and set race points for our channel races that offer the birds the shortest possible channel crossing point/s. I cannot remember a single good race when the birds had to navigate the Cherbourg peninsula which leads to one of the longest stretches of water the birds have to get from mainland Europe into the UK. So, whilst an Easterly situated racing route does not suit some fanciers I think the welfare of the birds would be better served coming from the East of France or Belgium. As for distance I am a bit of a traditionalist and think the Gold Cup should be around 550mls into the central belt with the birds being libbed EAP. Jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Was thinking something like this Huntington. 5th JuneMaidstone 19th june Reims gold cup 25th June Troyes longest race 3rd July Ypres 10th July Roye 17th July Huntingdon y/b/nat 11th or 18th September Take away Huntingdon and move Maidstone or even Buckingham to the 5th and it’s as good as it gets for a good GC entry, also leaving Federations a 3 week window to have their own individual longest inland race. Or perhaps combines could be formed throughout the country to have a coast race against our nearest neighbours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooheed 5 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Seen a thing recently about the route an Osprey took from Northern Africa to Denmark. The significant thing about the route it chose was every time it had to cross a channel/sea of water it chose the shortest possible route, even though this added to the overall distance of its flight. Imo we should learn from this and set race points for our channel races that offer the birds the shortest possible channel crossing point/s. I cannot remember a single good race when the birds had to navigate the Cherbourg peninsula which leads to one of the longest stretches of water the birds have to get from mainland Europe into the UK. So, whilst an Easterly situated racing route does not suit some fanciers I think the welfare of the birds would be better served coming from the East of France or Belgium. As for distance I am a bit of a traditionalist and think the Gold Cup should be around 550mls into the central belt with the birds being libbed EAP. Jmo.Doesn’t bother the English lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Seen a thing recently about the route an Osprey took from Northern Africa to Denmark. The significant thing about the route it chose was every time it had to cross a channel/sea of water it chose the shortest possible route, even though this added to the overall distance of its flight. Imo we should learn from this and set race points for our channel races that offer the birds the shortest possible channel crossing point/s. I cannot remember a single good race when the birds had to navigate the Cherbourg peninsula which leads to one of the longest stretches of water the birds have to get from mainland Europe into the UK. So, whilst an Easterly situated racing route does not suit some fanciers I think the welfare of the birds would be better served coming from the East of France or Belgium. As for distance I am a bit of a traditionalist and think the Gold Cup should be around 550mls into the central belt with the birds being libbed EAP. Jmo.The only time La ferte Bernard was raced I times two in two seconds, a third on the night and one the next morning for 4 out of 4! Unlike Reims..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyBhoy Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Liege and Burdinne... two good races in a row, even spread of prizes per section, good returns etc etc Only in this country do you change what’s working. Beggars belief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeboah Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Liege and Burdinne... two good races in a row, even spread of prizes per section, good returns etc etc Only in this country do you change what’s working. Beggars beliefYour correct in beggars belief Newbury was one of the fairest inland nationals giong 1st open ricky young ayrshire I was 2nd open Moffat Karen newcombe 5th open Edinburgh Birds got to break both sides of pennines Portsmouth A agnew Kelso 1st open 2nd to 6th Edinburgh/dundee I was 7th There again both sides of the pennines Couldn't get any fairer than that The Snfc is been turned into snrpc 2 East and south east winds and we've never had a good one out of Reims Wait till we get a strong south westThen watch the long faces with no doos home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Your correct in beggars belief Newbury was one of the fairest inland nationals giong 1st open ricky young ayrshire I was 2nd open Moffat Karen newcombe 5th open Edinburgh Birds got to break both sides of pennines Portsmouth A agnew Kelso 1st open 2nd to 6th Edinburgh/dundee I was 7th There again both sides of the pennines Couldn't get any fairer than that The Snfc is been turned into snrpc 2 East and south east winds and we've never had a good one out of Reims Wait till we get a strong south westThen watch the long faces with no doos home100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 We are just a small operation that likes to have a go at the big races. Wherever the gold cup is raced from we will have a crack at it... Good luck at the gold cup to everyone next year wherever we race from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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