Delboy Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) Cannot believe ive had 4 return from Reims in the last 36 hours, almost a week after the race. Now 9/14 with 3 of my fancied doos still to come??? 2nd, 3rd and 8th west region winners. Where do you think they have been as Im hearing a few reported covered in oil. Are they in the North sea oilrigs? Edited August 7, 2020 by Delboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBM66 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Have had 2 return derek 1 on wed and then Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Had 1 on Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Mealy back this morning 4/6 its like oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Tooner Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 4/8 here one covered in oilAls a doo from Maidstone on tuesday covered in oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooman Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 From 5 here now last one on Monday been on a farm somewhere stinking of manure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJL Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 on Wednesday and 1 on Thursday. Also had a Maidstone bird reported picked up on the beach at Seahouses covered in oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted August 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 4/8 here one covered in oilAls a doo from Maidstone on tuesday covered in oil. so what do you think has happened Stuart.Some say clashing, some say the heat got them and they lay down, whats your theory on it? Edited August 7, 2020 by Delboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 I have 3/4 one on the sat afternoon one on Sunday and one on wed the only thing I noticed was they weren't particularly thin so must have looked after themselves as they haven't been in as feet very dirty .I think they may not all have crossed channel and were maybe carried down the coast before correcting themselves, jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted August 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 We all know that these late birds just weren't good enough on the day but I am just interested in what people think happened to them all. 1500ypm down to 600ypm to take the open positions isn't a great race imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzlecock Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 I think rig workers catch them on the rig put them onto supply boats or choppers and let them go back on land at change oversThats why your getting them mid week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooheed 5 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Had 3/6 from Reims upto now but Wouldn’t be suprised to see more the way returns have been with others & myself over past couple o weeks from National and Fed racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooman Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 I have sent a lot of them back onshore over the years.But after the bird flu they would not take them on the helicopters so just had to feed them up and hope for the best. I’m about 100 miles east of Aberdeen as soon as the strays started to arrive then there would be 1 or 2 birds of prey would be right behind them every time I don’t know if they chased them out to sea but they knew where they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJL Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1596806496[/url]' post='1237543']We all know that these late birds just weren't good enough on the day but I am just interested in what people think happened to them all. 1500ypm down to 600ypm to take the open positions isn't a great race imo. I think some of them hit rain in England probably not long after they crossed the channel. Usually if birds go up into Holland you don’t get them for a couple of weeks and not in a west wind. There may be some have gone out to sea but not the amount that are turning up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew suckle Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 3/4 here got 1 yesterday hawked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Tooner Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 so what do you think has happened Stuart.Some say clashing, some say the heat got them and they lay down, whats your theory on it?Birds headed north east on liberation, came off the coast of holland and into north sea, shipping forecast for southern north sea was southerly force 5-6 occasionally 7 (in other words as we say up here a good breeze o ween) the winning pigeons manage to sort themselves out but many didnt.If it was the heat it didn’t seem to affect the snrpc race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo54 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 We all know that these late birds just weren't good enough on the day but I am just interested in what people think happened to them all. 1500ypm down to 600ypm to take the open positions isn't a great race imo.I posted on the Friday afternoon about the excessive heat the length of England and I said they would get a sticky race with very few home on the shift and I stand by that, also a lot of people are forgetting there was about an hour and a half less daylight , some of the early second morning birds would normally have made it home on the night if the race had been on its usual date jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted August 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Some good info on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi.b Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 My 7yr old cock returned from Reims on Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted August 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Birds headed north east on liberation, came off the coast of holland and into north sea, shipping forecast for southern north sea was southerly force 5-6 occasionally 7 (in other words as we say up here a good breeze o ween) the winning pigeons manage to sort themselves out but many didnt.If it was the heat it didn’t seem to affect the snrpc race? This would explain only one doo in the Solway on the night Stuart.. I personally thought the doos should've been up at 2pm on Thursday, this would've kept all birds out and they would've finished on the Friday , avoiding clashing and the heat wave to an extent. The problem that arose with doing this is some doomen would have complained about the possibility of getting a doo on the shift. Although, this is understandable as the romance of the Gold cup is getting one on the day, sometimes it doesn't help the overall race, jmho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) What backs a lot of the last post Del is look at the age of the top 15 pigeons 11/4year old ,2/5year old ,1/3year ,and only 1 /2 year old in my mind top experience pigeons realised the mistake and corrected it before going too far . Edited August 7, 2020 by eastcoaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Tooner Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 This would explain only one doo in the Solway on the night Stuart.. I personally thought the doos should've been up at 2pm on Thursday, this would've kept all birds out and they would've finished on the Friday , avoiding clashing and the heat wave to an extent. The problem that arose with doing this is some doomen would have complained about the possibility of getting a doo on the shift. Although, this is understandable as the romance of the Gold cup is getting one on the day, sometimes it doesn't help the overall race, jmho.Totally agree Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Some interesting posts on this topic. Glad to hear that fanciers are still getting some of their old favourites home from a trying race.They live to fight another day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deveron Lad Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 We have two home now Fulton & Ritchie and in good condition well chuffed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeboah Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 0/3 Was worried when liberation stated they went north east Few years back when we had stinker out reims they cleared north east I was 11th section at 2-30 next afternoon Having spoken to a top distance champion from Holland when over at showHe stated that reims is not a good racepoint for Scottish pigeons as they do not get a good line of flight and end up on northern Amsterdam He said he has witnessed batches working the coastline deciding whether to cross hundreds of miles of open sea Correct what stuart was saying the wind was strong southerly over sea hence they missed England That accounts for birds not in solway or Scottish borders Only doo in solway on night was seen homing from north east Some real fancied doos at top of list which will have faced this scenario before Have to also remember that we were a month later and full families of Falcons are on the wing Very well done to all who timed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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