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Posted 17 January 2020 - 19:51 PM

I have used matrix for a number of years but I gave noticed the last 4 months there seems to be less mineral and seeds in it and it has become more like a mixed grit
Anyone else noticed this ?
I liked it as the birds cleared the small amount I put down everyday but now I may as well put down a mixed grit

What of these types of ready mixed grit and minerals do others use or do you make your own as I won't be buying anymore matrix

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Posted 17 January 2020 - 20:40 PM

i sell de pagoon from bamfords and a lot cheeper

i sell de pagoon from bamfords and a lot cheeper
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Posted 17 January 2020 - 21:06 PM

View Postneila, on 17 January 2020 - 19:51 PM, said:

I have used matrix for a number of years but I gave noticed the last 4 months there seems to be less mineral and seeds in it and it has become more like a mixed grit
Anyone else noticed this ?
I liked it as the birds cleared the small amount I put down everyday but now I may as well put down a mixed grit

What of these types of ready mixed grit and minerals do others use or do you make your own as I won't be buying anymore matrix


Versele Laga grit + redstone with aniseed - I've never used matrix.

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Posted 17 January 2020 - 22:08 PM

View PostMossgiel, on 17 January 2020 - 21:06 PM, said:

Versele Laga grit + redstone with aniseed - I've never used matrix.



I will have a look if they have that at rhe corn store as they sell VL
Do the birds clear the lot ? I hate grit and mineral being left in the loft

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 06:49 AM

View Postneila, on 17 January 2020 - 22:08 PM, said:

I will have a look if they have that at rhe corn store as they sell VL
Do the birds clear the lot ? I hate grit and mineral being left in the loft


No, some is always left, but they never leave the redstone.

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 07:25 AM

View PostMossgiel, on 18 January 2020 - 06:49 AM, said:

No, some is always left, but they never leave the redstone.


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Posted 18 January 2020 - 08:07 AM

Your right matrix isn't what it once was, make it up urself? Done in the past and is just as good once u put some aniseed oil on it

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 08:58 AM

View PostWiley, on 18 January 2020 - 08:07 AM, said:

Your right matrix isn't what it once was, make it up urself? Done in the past and is just as good once u put some aniseed oil on it



Hi Ryan
I was looking at aniseed powder and oil
What do you do put the oil on a bit of seed and mix it through some mixed ,grit clay blocks etc

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 10:41 AM

Stopped using Matrix a couple of seasons back,as you say not like it used to be,now use VL Colombine all in one.

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 10:44 AM

View Postneila, on 18 January 2020 - 08:58 AM, said:

Hi Ryan
I was looking at aniseed powder and oil
What do you do put the oil on a bit of seed and mix it through some mixed ,grit clay blocks etc

I add aniseed oil to my trapping mix Neil ( just a few drops ),also during the racing season,two or three drops in the corridor,don't know if that's for my benifit or the birds though lol.

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 12:56 PM

View Postgreenlands, on 18 January 2020 - 10:44 AM, said:

I add aniseed oil to my trapping mix Neil ( just a few drops ),also during the racing season,two or three drops in the corridor,don't know if that's for my benifit or the birds though lol.



do you add a bit of the mix with the aniseed on to the grit mix mate ?

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 15:03 PM

View Postneila, on 18 January 2020 - 12:56 PM, said:

do you add a bit of the mix with the aniseed on to the grit mix mate ?

No mate only add it to condition seed.

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 16:28 PM

Took this off a 10 year old post:


Grit, crushed pickstone, clay block, minerals n a small amount of condition seeds mixed together.



As greenlands post - aniseed on the condition seed only before mixing together

Original post from Brian Wall - Beyers grit used in Matrix (I knew it was somewhere!)
Feb 7th 2008

http://forum.pigeonb...ix/page__st__20

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 20:03 PM

I like vanrobaeys super grit and you can get in 20 KG bags
If your not in it you cant win it

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 08:16 AM

atlantis 6kg tub and its cheaper than matrix

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 09:37 AM

I use D/P GOLD BLEND MULTIMIX LARGE 10 LITRES EACH £11.52 get it from Bamfords. I used to use Matrix but for me the gold blend multi mix is just a good and its cheaper.
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Posted 20 January 2020 - 19:30 PM

View Postfreddy1980, on 20 January 2020 - 08:16 AM, said:

atlantis 6kg tub and its cheaper than matrix



Not seen that before will have a look

View Postrobbiedoo., on 20 January 2020 - 09:37 AM, said:

I use D/P GOLD BLEND MULTIMIX LARGE 10 LITRES EACH £11.52 get it from Bamfords. I used to use Matrix but for me the gold blend multi mix is just a good and its cheaper.


Another reason ne new to me, thanks

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 08:46 AM

View PostREDCHEQHEN, on 18 January 2020 - 16:28 PM, said:

Took this off a 10 year old post:


Grit, crushed pickstone, clay block, minerals n a small amount of condition seeds mixed together.



As greenlands post - aniseed on the condition seed only before mixing together

Original post from Brian Wall - Beyers grit used in Matrix (I knew it was somewhere!)
Feb 7th 2008

http://forum.pigeonb...ix/page__st__20



Thanks for that

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 12:05 PM

I purchased some beyers and natural grit in 20kg bags , pink mineral, aniseed oil ,clay pots and a bit of conditioner seed
I think it works out £6.20 and the birds seem to be eating it better than the recent matrix so I think I have saved £36 on the same weight as 10 tubs

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 13:10 PM

View Postneila, on 28 January 2020 - 11:05 AM, said:

I purchased some beyers and natural grit in 20kg bags , pink mineral, aniseed oil ,clay pots and a bit of conditioner seed
I think it works out £6.20 and the birds seem to be eating it better than the recent matrix so I think I have saved £36 on the same weight as 10 tubs

Do you not feel that adding aniseed oil encourages the birds to eat much more than they actually require.
I feel Matrix has aniseed added for this purpose. The birds eat more and the manufacturer sells more.

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