BANDIT Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 A friend is after ash blue or ash check pigeons...not the ones in the vandenabelle lines as not ash....If anyone on here races birds containing these colours can you pm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANDIT Posted October 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 A friend is after ash blue or ash check pigeons...not the ones in the vandenabelle lines as not ash....If anyone on here races birds containing these colours can you pm me. Im suprised no one seems to have these colour of racing pigeons..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue bar Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Is ash colour like a mosaic? , I've two larebreds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 What do you lads call ash blue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monrow Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 .silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbar Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 silverthat's what I would have called it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 That's what I call them silvers,anyone got a photo of an ash ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANDIT Posted October 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Pigeon fanciers call them different names ash, mosaic ,opal and silvers...opal and mosaic are different to ash and silvers...Ash and silvers are dilute blue or check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANDIT Posted October 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 That's what I call them silvers,anyone got a photo of an ash ? What lines are they.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Dick Baldwin Barkers,sorry to say long gone now.This is the cock that was the main breeder of silvers,flew exceptionally well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANDIT Posted October 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 Dick Baldwin Barkers,sorry to say long gone now.This is the cock that was the main breeder of silvers,flew exceptionally well for me. Thanks for sharing the photos. Anyone on here got those silver blue/ silver checks that are from racing stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamArcher Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 When you say "silver", are you talking about dilute blue, like my attachment here? Pigeons have three base colours - Ash Red, Blue, Brown, so it is a little confusing when you say "Ash Blue". Silver like I've posted is a blue pigeon plus the "dilute" gene, the same gene that turns red pigeons into yellows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 I bred a cracker with very pale blue colouring from a barless mealy X blue pied will try and get a photo ,What would I get from 2 barless mealys ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddog Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 The 1981 Homing World stud book has an excellent article by Matt White of Paisley on breeding barless and dilutes, he explains it in layman,s terms and it is relatively easy to understand . It is the best article I have read on the subject. Maybe one of the computer boffins on site could dig it out as surely the article has been copied elsewhere . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamArcher Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 I bred a cracker with very pale blue colouring from a barless mealy X blue pied will try and get a photo ,What would I get from 2 barless mealys ?. When you say "barless mealy" do you mean the red version of a genuine barless blue, or do you mean "ash red spread", which is commonly called barless mealy but does not have the barless gene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J Burden Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Anyone wish a good reas during these dark nights try this website. Most of any colour variation is described and photographed too. http://www.angelfire.com/ga/huntleyloft/ Mjb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 When you say "barless mealy" do you mean the red version of a genuine barless blue, or do you mean "ash red spread", which is commonly called barless mealy but does not have the barless gene?That's too complicated for me lol The cock The hen is from a blood red cock X black henThis cock breeds a barless in every nest , although I think he is more a mealy ,Interested what colour I will get . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Anyone wish a good reas during these dark nights try this website. Most of any colour variation is described and photographed too. http://www.angelfire.com/ga/huntleyloft/ MjbVery interesting reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamArcher Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 That's too complicated for me lol The cock The hen is from a blood red cock X black henThis cock breeds a barless in every nest , although I think he is more a mealy ,Interested what colour I will get . I thought this would be what you meant. This bird is what genetics guys call "Ash Red Spread" - like this video: Although he looks barless, genetically he is most likely to be "red bar", modified by the "spread" gene (same gene that causes black pigeons). You wont breed true barless birds from him unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 It's a mealy to me Adam.???I have one the same in the YB loft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I thought this would be what you meant. This bird is what genetics guys call "Ash Red Spread" - like this video: Although he looks barless, genetically he is most likely to be "red bar", modified by the "spread" gene (same gene that causes black pigeons). You wont breed true barless birds from him unfortunately.Thanks .You seem very knowledgable on the subject so can I ask where do I start trying to breed a barless blue made famous here by Matt White of Paisley . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANDIT Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 When you say "silver", are you talking about dilute blue, like my attachment here? Pigeons have three base colours - Ash Red, Blue, Brown, so it is a little confusing when you say "Ash Blue". Silver like I've posted is a blue pigeon plus the "dilute" gene, the same gene that turns red pigeons into yellows. Yes Adam dilute blue or dilute blue check. Anyone wish a good reas during these dark nights try this website. Most of any colour variation is described and photographed too. http://www.angelfire.com/ga/huntleyloft/ Mjb Thanks Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANDIT Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Thanks .You seem very knowledgable on the subject so can I ask where do I start trying to breed a barless blue made famous here by Matt White of Paisley . You need a barless blue to start with or 2 blues with the barless blue gene to get barless blues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 You need a barless blue to start with or 2 blues with the barless blue gene to get barless blues.The obvious question is where did the first one come from lol .Been told this before . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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