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I've had a few people ask me what lines the Gabys are. So heres the peds.

Stock pair pedigrees. These have bred me winners after only a year and a half in the stock loft. Also bred me birds that should have had chalks this year but have been unlucky.

This gaby hen got me 8th fed, 3rd club this year. Also my first bird from a lot of the longer harder races/ performed really well for a yearling up against older more experienced pigeons. She only had one race as a yb due to being natural and dropping to bits.

Should have won more but I didn't get the hang of proper feeding until half way through the OB season.

This Gaby Hen came good as a YB and was put into the stock loft as I had a lack of hens at the time. Some of her children have been in the race team this year and been in my first 10 back every YB race.

Got a prize or had my clock off every YB race apart from one. I also give overfly to every member of our club. Had the first 5 - 7 birds back down our set of allotments every race apart from 2.

What a difference the darkness system makes!!!! As these are the same YB's I was flying natural in 07 and only got 1 chalk! These birds have scored as yearlings proving they aren't crap so just shows the darkness does work.

Here is proof of my best performance of 2008 printed in the BHW

6 birds sent!

Fastest Bird in Amal 5,056 birds

1st Fed

1st Club - won by 15 minutes. Thats a lot for a 178 mile race

Loft mate scored:-

8th Fed

3rd Club

We aren't like clubs and feds down south. There are only 4 club pos's to fly for and only 10 pos's in the fed. That amount of times I have lost out this year by a few sec's especially in the YB's and ended up 5th club, 6th club, 11th fed etc is soul destroying but thats pigeon racing up here for you. If the bird goes round you are knackered waste a few seconds clocking on you are knackered. Plus no ETS in our club we are only using T3 clocks plus some people in the Amal are using ETS so hardly a level playing field! But pigeon racing never is when you look at all the other variables such as loft location, wind etc. Plus very very good pigeon men in our club and fed hard to beat when its only flew a year and a half.

This performance was achieved in a north head wind as well. Always the best one's when its not a blow home paper bag day.

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I also own a nestmate of the bird that was second club, 5th Fed that day. Look in the Deerness Valley Fed column to see this. I bought this along with the rest of the new stock birds referred to in my Advert from Mr I Metcalf who is a top flyer and has had to retire due to ill health and our local allotments being sold. This bird is an 07 cock, Klak Janssen that has a broken wing he won club pos's and fed pos's as a YB before breaking his wing and being put into the stock loft as a promising breeder.

Ian picked a Klak Janssen hen out for this bird that also has chalks. I look forward to next years breeding as it can only add to my team that I am building up. Birds off these are all available. £30.00 each off stock or if you buy six at £120 only £20.00 each which is nowt for birds of this quality.

Birds off the racers will be £25.00 each. See my advert for more information.

I'd also like to point out that all my old birds where flown on natural system this year. Beating widow cocks and roundabout birds on sprint races. Next year I will also be flying a team of widowhood cocks as I feel this should strengthen my game even more.

Natural Hens take some beating and I will still have a team for these but I feel widowhood will be even better and suit the more widowhood oriented bird such as my gabys even more.

Further proof of my performances in YB National this weeks Homing World page 79. West Durham Amal Deerness Valley Fed

3rd Fed P Fullard. This bird also won 1st club. The next race to this it won a fourth.

The following is more info about my performence from that race from my advert:-

"From the WDA Young Bird National Billericay (233 miles), 6,9444 birds I sent a total of 23 birds and won the following:-

Flash a direct son of the raggster won the following

3rd Fed, 1st club

At the time of writing Flash?s WDA position for this race is unknown. The only two birds to beat him in the fed were raced by Hodgson, Son and Cowie who are top flyers in the WDA. These two birds are both in the top 20 of the WDA which has been published on their website. http://www.wdapigeons.co.uk

I have heard verbally from the fed sec that he has seen the top hundred and thinks my bird is roughly 26th WDA. Hopefully these results will be published soon. Flash won the club by 10 minutes proving he takes after his mam.

To prove it wasn?t a fluke I also won, with a Van Loon x Direct Martin Ali cock:-

4th club. This cock also won the first young bird race and has been on the clock most weeks.''

a few pictures I've took before the camera died on me I'll try and get some better ones

Gaby Hen 3rd club 8th fed and been on the clock other weeks. Direct Mike Lycett

The Raggster 2 x 1st clubs, 1 x 1st fed, 1 x 5th fed. Fastest bird in amal and has bred birds to score

good van loon hen on clock and bred birds to score should have won a few 10th feds but pipped by a few seconds each time

nice birds and congrates on a great season best of luck next year

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Is that last blue tick eye the one I bred you Paul?

I'll get some better ones sorted out in particular the stock and this years YB team

Quoted from stevebelbin

Is that last blue tick eye the one I bred you Paul?

She's a van reet off one of my dad's mates in the Durham Combine a guy called Tommy Bussey whose a top flyer. Tommy has a cracking season taking first 5 - 10 in the fed and stuff. Came ok but missed quite a few races cause she hit a wire training she's in the channel team for next year.

Got some cracking blue hens off the channel pair I got off you

Not the flipey, the one in the piccie above, you added a piccie while i was typing haha

Quoted from stevebelbin

Not the flipey, the one in the piccie above, you added a piccie while i was typing haha

Thats also one of his he breds a lot with ticks behind their eyes. Dunno what strain they are as he never tells you just a pair number. Think they are staff van reets through as he has a lot of blue and whites that seem to win.

Also bred some nice yb's off that van reet white flight cock I got off you paired to a van loon hen. Fast pigeons

shes a lovely hen her an the van loon hen

Oh yes i forgot you got one of the Van-Reets I had. Ill have to pop over one weekend to see the birds

i need a bigger screen lol

Quoted from DUBLINFLYER

shes a lovely hen her an the van loon hen

All the Van Loon hens seem to have big snecks/noses must make them cut through the air faster lol

prize haul for the year the date on the picture is wrong cause couldn't figure out how to change it on camera

ended up runner up for yb averages not bad for second season for flying yb's with 15 YB's on darkness and threst on nat

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Quoted from stevebelbin

Oh yes i forgot you got one of the Van-Reets I had. Ill have to pop over one weekend to see the birds

no worries whenever

Well done paul   much more to come next year mate !!!

Quoted from j.bamling

Well done paul   much more to come next year mate !!!

Cheers mate same for you I reckon next year will be a good one for you back in the durham combine.

Was great being runner up to the young bird averages but i want to win them next year! lol

Klaks all gone. As have Gabys. Got busschaerts, Willy Thas etc left or mixed bags for £120 for six or will sell indivudually

Thanks to those people who have placed orders already

Just brought 3 new hens this weekend off one of my contacts to pair up to selected cocks in my widowhood team that have prizes themselves. These hens are:-

1. Van Loon bred off Direct Planet Bro's birds

2. Van Loon x Busschaert direct Helm & Knox - Prudhoe bird. This hen won a 1st fed, 1st club being raced as a YB only and then has been used as a widowhood hen.

3. Busschaert - direct Helm & Knox - Prudhoe bird. This hen was on the clock every week when it raced as a YB. Again used as a widowhood hen as her owner is a widowhood specialist.

Putting Orginal advert in as can't post on that anymore

I offer the fancy 2009 bred young birds from the 2nd and 3rd rounds of my stock birds and racing team. I started flying young birds only in 2007 and this year 2008 is my first full season with old birds and young birds. I have had a really successful year and despite only being a novice and learning the ropes have won the following prizes:-

2007 Young Birds on Natural Only

1 x 1st Club


2008

Old Birds Flown on Natural System Only

2 x 1st Clubs

1 x 3rd Club

Fastest Vel in Amal

1 x 1st Fed

1 x 8th Fed

1 x 5th Fed


Young Birds Darkness System

2 x 1st Clubs

2 x 3rd clubs

2 x 4th club

1 x 3rd fed

I am not a mob flyer being a young lad who works full time and is also doing a building surveying degree through work I don't have time to mob fly! I send on average 12 old birds a race and around 23 young birds a race.

My two best performances of this year have proven I don?t need numbers. These are:-

Old Bird

From the WDA race to Huntingdon (178 miles) 5,056 birds I sent a total of 6 birds and won the following positions:-

My good hen the raggster won the following:-

Fastest Bird in WDA on the Day (This bird would have topped the Amal if it had been a proper Amal race)

1st Fed, 1st club

The raggster also won 5th Fed, 1st club from WDA first old bird race from Wakefield. Not bad for a hen that is a yearling and only had two races as an YB and just 4 old bird races this year. She won the club by 15 minutes.

To prove it wasn?t a fluke I also won, with a direct Mike Lycett Gaby hen:-

8th Fed, 3rd club


Young Bird

From the WDA Young Bird National Billericay (233 miles), 6,000 (approx) birds I sent a total of 23 birds and won the following:-

Flash a direct son of the raggster won the following

3rd Fed, 1st club

At the time of writing Flash?s WDA position for this race is unknown. The only two birds to beat him in the fed were raced by Hodgson, Son and Cowie who are top flyers in the WDA. These two birds are both in the top 20 of the WDA which has been published on their website. http://www.wdapigeons.co.uk

I have heard verbally from the fed sec that he has seen the top hundred and thinks my bird is roughly 26th WDA. Hopefully these results will be published soon. Flash won the club by 10 minutes proving he takes after his mam.

To prove it wasn?t a fluke I also won, with a Van Loon x Direct Martin Ali cock:-

4th club. This cock also won the first young bird race and has been on the clock most weeks.

I keep the following strains:-

Busschaert. Martin Ali, Ian Metcalf, Ray Forbes

Gaby Vandebeele, Direct Mike Lycett

Van Loons. Ponderosa

Staff Van Reets. From top flyers in Durham Combine

Frans Van Wildermersch. From various top flyers

Jos Throne. Ian Stafford brought through 3rd party

Willy Thas - Jimmy Bambling

Klak Janssens. Tommy Napper

If you want the following you have come to the right place:-

Good honest birds that win

Birds at a fair price

Strong healthy birds no crap sent out

Birds I race myself

If you want the following you have come to the wrong place:-

Fancy Pedigrees

By the above I mean birds that look good on paper yet they won?t win. I?ll do any buyer a simple pedigree but I'd rather not bother to be honest unless they insist on one cause I think they are a pile of crap myself and birds should be brought and bred off performance pigeons Most of the top flyers I've brought from don?t supply pedigrees half the time and just tell you roughly what the bird is bred off. If they win that?s good enough for me!

I don't normally believe in selling birds but as a young lad who flies on his own and won?t earn decent money until I?m qualified in my profession I have found pigeon racing to be a very expensive sport to be a part of.. I am selling birds not to make a profit but simply to help pay some of my corn and diesel bill so I can have the odd night out in a while and still send to every race because I love the sport and competing too much. I haven?t won as much as many fliers on here but I have won quite a bit for a novice against very strong competion. 3 fliers in our fed have won the WDA multiple times! If I can win with these birds so can you!

I have just killed a large part of my stock team because they haven?t come up to scratch and have replaced these birds with proven stock birds. These birds where brought privately from a top fancier called Ian Metcalf. Ian has flown in both the WDA and Durham Combine and been a hard man to beat both at club and fed level against top fliers such as Curry and Young.

Ian has packed in the sport due to ill health and I was lucky to have the chance to buy proven stock birds from him these birds have won prizes themselves both in club and fed and bred winners. I hope to establish my loft on this fine stock and surpass my results of this season. Despite Ian?s ill health he won the young bird averages in the club last year 2007 and also won positions in the club this year.

Now the important thing the price!

£30.00 a YB from the stock pigeons

£25.00 a YB from the race team

£120.00 for six YBs Cheaper than Louella

Carriage will be paid by purchaser at current rates

You can have either your own rings on the birds or mine whatever suits you.

£20.00 quid deposit reserves your order

Just to clarify the £120 for six is for YB's both from the racers and the stock. Like Tescos I give you more bang for your dollar!!!

Well got to beat the credit crunch anyway!

I also breed on Bamfords Breed & Wean and use gemphanax for breeding. No expense spared you can't feed YB's you are hoping to be champs crap you get out what you put in!

Just made some new additions to the team. Went to John KcKeowns entire clearance at Belmont club and brought lots 13 and 39

Blue Hen Debbie 08-360  Winner 1st Club, 5th Fed Wetherby

Sire:- 07NW3605, 2nd Melton Mowbray, son Bernard, 2 x 1sts, 30th and 76th UNC Lillers & Clermont, 5th and 6th Clermont and Lillers x 04NW1407, 1st Worksop,1st maidstone, 2nd Harlow

Dam:- 07NW3623, dam of winner, daughter Ian Axe de Prut, brother to sire of Lodge Star, 1st UNC Bourges 2006 x 02TN5067 dam of club and fed winners including Lodge Star himself


Blue Cock, 07-3613, winner 4th Melton Mowbray

Sire:- 06-2726 bred by Porter and Stevens breeding of Pouw Bros x Village Lad

Dam:- Old Pep, dam of many winners pure Janssen

how many birds race in your club each week

and how many were in the fed when you won it

Hi Jack each week we normally have 200 birds in the club sometimes a lot more when its young bird races.

As for the fed its normally around 500 birds again a lot higher when its young bird races but most weeks we generally hit around 500

When I won the fed my bird beat 5,056 birds as it also achieved the fastest vel in the WDA which had 5,056 birds sent that race.

When I was 3rd fed I also ended up 26th Amal out of 6,000 birds. Which means the bird has beat 5,974 birds.

If you look through this thread you will see I have scanned clippings in from the BHW to verify my performances.

I race in County Durham in the WDA which is widely renowned along with the rest of the North East of England as one of the hotbeds of pigeon racing in England. Along the member of our club and fed, 6 have topped the amal before. 3 of these men have topped it on multiple occasions.

Its a hard club and fed for a novice to start racing in but after one and a half seasons. I think I'm starting to learn what birds are what and my results against much more experienced men are good.

Any more questions fire away and I'll do my best to answer them?

Any more questions

Quoted from Paulo

Hi Jack each week we normally have 200 birds in the club sometimes a lot more when its young bird races.

As for the fed its normally around 500 birds again a lot higher when its young bird races but most weeks we generally hit around 500

When I won the fed my bird beat 5,056 birds as it also achieved the fastest vel in the WDA which had 5,056 birds sent that race.

When I was 3rd fed I also ended up 26th Amal out of 6,000 birds. Which means the bird has beat 5,974 birds.

If you look through this thread you will see I have scanned clippings in from the BHW to verify my performances.

I race in County Durham in the WDA which is widely renowned along with the rest of the North East of England as one of the hotbeds of pigeon racing in England. Along the member of our club and fed, 6 have topped the amal before. 3 of these men have topped it on multiple occasions.

Its a hard club and fed for a novice to start racing in but after one and a half seasons. I think I'm starting to learn what birds are what and my results against much more experienced men are good.

Any more questions fire away and I'll do my best to answer them?

Any more questions

aye,whats for dinner

some top men who fly in the WDA who you may have he