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Hi all
I have two pigeons that are looking sick
they are going around on the floor with there heads up in the air
they are out of my stock loft .
the pigeons are 07 birds
will it be best to kill them as i dont want all my birds geting this
it looks like they have young bird sickness.
they are eating and drinking well put there dropings are not right hard and sometimes they trow the food over there heads

hope someone can help me as i paid a lot of money for the birds last year
thanks

if they are throwing there heads around it could be PMV!
Get them tested and if it could be PMV contact DEFRA!

Quoted from jack

Hi all
I have two pigeons that are looking sick
they are going around on the floor with there heads up in the air
they are out of my stock loft .
the pigeons are 07 birds
will it be best to kill them as i dont want all my birds geting this
it looks like they have young bird sickness.
they are eating and drinking well put there dropings are not right hard and sometimes they trow the food over there heads

hope someone can help me as i paid a lot of money for the birds last year
thanks

why wait..get them to the vets and have them looked at and find out wots wrong with them, guessing will cost u more then finding out at the vets.
if they cost that much why wait?

sorry but it is not that easy in dublin to get a vet that nows about pigeons

dose anyone no a vet in dublin that deals with pigeons

  thanks all for the info

Would PMV spread rapidly through the loft and kill birds or can they recover from it? The reason i ask this is i have never vaccinated against PMV, but in the past have noticed a bird with trembling wings, which i believe is a symptom, i still have birds from this bird in the loft now. The bird did not die from anything, it was culled, due to lack of space. I maybe looking into this too far. I have recently sent a dropping sample away for analysis, so hopefully any diseases can be picked up from that.

There is a vet in bray knows all about racing pigeons
or ring sandyhill and ask for heno and ask him phone no 018640795.
Beter still ring Tom Fagan 086 1024230 hes your man.
                                                                                                    

Hi Jack
      best get a vet to check wether you kill them or not . Hope you have seperated them from the rest and keep a close eye on others. Symptoms are also similar to some rodent poisoning(rats or mice using drinkers or contaminating corn).
BEST OF LUCK . Hope it is something easily treatable

Hi mate get them tested but my guess would be  streppicocci or e-coli. will need to be treated with antbiotic
most likely Amoxicillin but the vet will tell you what is best for your birds.

good luck mate but i have heard quite a few people are having issues like this at the moment.

John

sounds like samanella just do them in dont treat birds in the winter especialy when goin through molt

jack i would  nap them mate,  and make sure the rest of your birds are given  treatment for  para and ecoli , rid your shed the best you can, as you are most likely to be over ran with mice  or rats its possible the birds that you bought in where not jagged  so  cut your losses, and let that be a lesson to you  jag if not sure  in future,  fog the loft with a good disinfectant like v-kill

thanks all

i have the birds in a room on there own
i have traps set all over my loft and posion out side for mice never had problems with rats befor

thanks again all

Quoted from jack

thanks all

i have the birds in a room on there own
i have traps set all over my loft and posion out side for mice never had problems with rats befor

thanks again all

any chance they picked up bait somehow

SEEN YOUR BIRDS JACK TOLD YOU WHAT 2 DO BIN THEM OR LOSE THEM ALL ANTO

Quoted from joshdonlan

Would PMV spread rapidly through the loft and kill birds or can they recover from it? The reason i ask this is i have never vaccinated against PMV, but in the past have noticed a bird with trembling wings, which i believe is a symptom, i still have birds from this bird in the loft now. The bird did not die from anything, it was culled, due to lack of space. I maybe looking into this too far. I have recently sent a dropping sample away for analysis, so hopefully any diseases can be picked up from that.

you should always vaccinate your birds for PMV

[quote=3442]Would PMV spread rapidly through the loft and kill birds or can they recover from it? The reason i ask this is i have never vaccinated against PMV, but in the past have noticed a bird with trembling wings, which i believe is a symptom, i still have birds from this bird in the loft now. The bird did not die from anything, it was culled, due to lack of space. I maybe looking into this too far. I have recently sent a dropping sample away for analysis, so hopefully any diseases can be picked up from that.

Well I'm bloody I glad I don't kill 'em for having trembling wings, or I would never have got my pigeon from Palamos this year.

Ok guys like i said it was about 2 years ago, so i maybe a little blurred in the symptoms. I have never raced or shown birds, although now thinking, this is the reason i have not vaccinated before, although i will start to in future.  

thanks all for your help
i have a vet coming to my house in the morning

i hope he can put this problem to bed

Quoted from joshdonlan

Ok guys like i said it was about 2 years ago, so i maybe a little blurred in the symptoms. I have never raced or shown birds, although now thinking, this is the reason i have not vaccinated before, although i will start to in future.  

Mate I only give the PMV vaccine, treat for Worms Cocci and Kanker. I never isolate. Why would you? You put your birds in with a 100 potential strays every week.

the problem is in my stock loft pal