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pjc
October 4, 2008, 5:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Chris, there is no show standard for show racers to conform to!
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try this one!


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i miss my show racers!!!



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looks like i will after look along these lines to do the channel with mite get a couple pair try them out


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Also depends on what traits the cock carries. What if the cock also carries dilute? Cocks also carry another colour, don't they? I find genetic stuff very hard to grasp but fascinating.


first to pjc,, lovely silvers  , be nice to see fifers yellows
  
as the post above states genetics in pigeons is hard to grasp but very fascinating,,, i had found in the past that no matter what cheq cock was paired to this yellow hen they  allways produced yellow hens and never cocks [even when the yellow hen was paired to her son ,a b cheq. but must admit this was only with one attemp,, but again i got a b cheq cock and a yellow hen,, i note that louella have selectively bred yellows , both cocks and hens ,,,,,and plenty of them just wondered how this was done?,,,,,,,,,i can only imagine that" white" which in a sence is no colour i.e. carries no colour pigment , therefore wondering if this yellow colour has been produced ,in some way through whites[having no pigment] crossed with say, a meally or silver , producing a faulty pigment colour ,,,being yellow as we know it by ??  anyone geneticly modified   could maybe answer this   but very fascinating anyway
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Didn't know you'd got rid of yours Ben!
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                    Yes that`s right.


like these asha,,,



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Jimmy, your pair will produce yellow cocks as long as the cock carries yellow but they will only throw a very small percentage of yellow cocks amongst the other colours they will breed.
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a ritte wayne john from last nite 2 answer your question from last nite mate i am from liverpool and me and me dad have quite a few strainz but prefer the gabbyz but thr van reets are never far away
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asha, who is slagging anybody off?
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a ritte wayne john from last nite 2 answer your question from last nite mate i am from liverpool and me and me dad have quite a few strainz but prefer the gabbyz but thr van reets are never far away



Hi John, just bought the gabys in.  Will see how do.   Got van reets some dean pallets, one hen scored in top 420 in mnfc three times she is good one at these races.  Looking forward to racing gabys over next year.

You in MNFC John? its club to be in at mo in your area.  I'm lucky to be in west section as well
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yellow hen to grizzle cock bred mealy hens
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what colour are the young cocks Terry, at a guess, all blue based?
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Evening Lads ,
                         Wayne i sent you ,. pm.
       Ted,they look just like the Tony Read type,alright too.
       pjc,please do not take any offence,i was just trying to generalise  
  
    

                        
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Jimmy, your pair will produce yellow cocks as long as the cock carries yellow but they will only throw a very small percentage of yellow cocks amongst the other colours they will breed.


ahh got you pjc,, as when i paired a b cheq [carrying no yellow genes] allways bred yellow hens ,, hence my post earlier,,,, but then breeding this hens son [,b cheq] back to the mother [ yellow hen] still got cheq cock and yellow hen ,, but this was the one and only attempt ,, as you say, if i had persevered i may well have got the odd yellow cock,, all very interesting stuff    thanks for the info
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Chris, there is no show standard for show racers to conform to!


then why are they all the sane big head neck light framed boned


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Chris they are far from all the same, head size, keal length, frame size all varies.
20yrs ago they were very big, very bold heads etc, then they started to get smaller, sharper faces to suit racing judges but they have increased in size again now.

Phil

p.s If i'm judgeing any of the big shows come and steward, you'll be amazed how they varie!
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yea may do that then you can see some real show winners racers   would i be able to pocket any????


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i used to be very keen on the shows and judged many,, the show racers were handy also in the summer where i could put some of the best  eggs that the w,hood hens laid under them,, i found they were great parents ,,off course in the winter they  were conditioned for the shows  ,, this is a bonnie yellowhen , these yellows are very beautifull , not only to look at , but have won races in the past with them , so both the show racer yellow and the racing yellow have their uses  
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