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What are the natural products as the so called 'old guys' use instead of modern day supplements and treatments? Im talking about Garlic, apple cider vinegar and cayeene pepper etc etc etc and what are the others? and what are there uses?

molasses also known as black treacle suppose to be good a keeping worms down
Bracken root used to be used for canker
steel nails cant rember use think that was also for canker
carrots juiced will take the fat of birds
wood louse for corn retension supose to make them reguritate
many others im sure some of the older guys will know

some strange ones there Mark  

aye and there must be thousands more , forgot to add the wood louse were put down throat 3 at a time never tried it but heard it works

Medicated creasote.Verry good for respitory problems.

are and creasote on a beer mat under nesting bowl keeps lice and mites and tics away

Quoted from OLDYELLOW

molasses also known as black treacle suppose to be good a keeping worms down
Bracken root used to be used for canker
steel nails cant rember use think that was also for canker
carrots juiced will take the fat of birds
wood louse for corn retension supose to make them reguritate
many others im sure some of the older guys will know

i think steel nails was for trying to put iron in the water as thought the birds would need iron in there blood or something very near that !!!

Quoted from OLDYELLOW

molasses also known as black treacle suppose to be good a keeping worms down
Bracken root used to be used for canker
steel nails cant rember use think that was also for canker
carrots juiced will take the fat of birds
wood louse for corn retension supose to make them reguritate
many others im sure some of the older guys will know

youll be telling us next about urinating in a doos eye for one eye cold,all kidding aside my dad used to collect acorns by the barrowload  and after leaving for drying, would smash them up for the birds,they loved them and won well at 350-600mls.

is it not spit for the one eye cold

my great great garandma had a farm and local shop she used to give the kids a bucket to collect acorns for pigs to kids that wanted sweets , she'd exchange full buckets for sweets

i totally agree with most natural products they can only be good i use a fair bit of them myself but when it comes to cures it mordern mecidene that we should look for

Tobbacco must be as common as any for nesting material. Honey, lemon juice. Modern medicine only when we aint got it right though.

pine needles can be used as nesting material and new pine needles can be used to make tea 10 times more vitamin c in pine needles than a lemon

how do you make pigeon tea?

Quoted from OLDYELLOW

molasses also known as black treacle suppose to be good a keeping worms down
Bracken root used to be used for canker
steel nails cant rember use think that was also for canker
carrots juiced will take the fat of birds
wood louse for corn retension supose to make them reguritate
many others im sure some of the older guys will know

Ya young whipper snapper ye!
Seriously, I think a lot of the old remedies have been lost and the ones that remain are mis-understood. These guys had to be very clever and did not have access to the remedies/information we have nowadays. This is the case with human well being too. The more options the better for all and it would be good to hear more, even if they are a bit obscure. Interesting post, thanks.

  just for Josh   http://www.ehow.com/how_2102192_pine-needle-tea.html

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how do you make pigeon tea?

milk with one sugar thanks

Cheers Mark  

Just heard a story tonight that a fancier had birds with twisted necks and an Asian guy told him to pee in the drinkers for two weeks and the birds were fine after it, the story teller seemed genuine It maybe just a lot of pish

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What are the natural products as the so called 'old guys' use instead of modern day supplements and treatments? Im talking about Garlic, apple cider vinegar and cayeene pepper etc etc etc and what are the others? and what are there uses?

Boy !!!!!!!!   How long is a piece of string etc   the items/products one could use at different times is endless, one could say in this sport. Now !!!!!! one of the most fasinating subjects etc one could study, is the use of herbs & spices. Both for humans & pigeons one could say. A couple of things   which may be of interest ?????????? are !!!!!!!. Cayenne Pepper, seeing as it's the flavour of the month at the moment  
when used in conjuction with most/any other herbs is far better, than when used on it's own, more so for the benefit of the other herbs etc one may use.
Another one !!!!!!!  Olive Leaf Extract but read up on it   & you may find something of interest.
Enjoy.