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the birds have been going down within 24 hours then they die they have wet dropings which is very bad no other signs of illness any thoughts.

Best get a bird tested but sounds like circovirus.

a few questions
1 what corn are you feeding ?
2 what age birds are affected ?
3 are your birds been let out ?

are the birds drinking a lot of water

sounds bad.. get them tested asap.. but don't just let them get worst,, some natural things,, cider vinegar in water,, yogart on food ...

they need treatment .. be careful what fanciers post ,, defra are clamping down on fanciers using un prescribed drugs.. do as we do go to a vet and get all the products needed for the illness from them..

the best of luck

ant

Quoted from pjc

Best get a bird tested but sounds like circovirus.

fully agree phil  rapid decline over very short time

Make sure its an avian vet as most no nothing about pigeons or what to prescribe!

birds are drinking a lot feeding varsa laga birds been flying out young and old going down

sounds like para to me

Sent you a PM

old birds as well sounds as if they have picked up  poison

years ago i had a same type of thing birds were drinking water on fiberglass roof with green mold all over it

circovirus kills old birds as well

sounds like some bad person  thru poison over yer fence.

Herpes is a possibility

As other members have said and get them tested as soon as possible by an avian vet, or get one that is still alive to your nearest Defra for post mortem, no use in members just guessing when it is that serious

have they been fielding i.e been in a field ?

Quoted from DOVEScot

As other members have said and get them tested as soon as possible by an avian vet, or get one that is still alive to your nearest Defra for post mortem, no use in members just guessing when it is that serious

he asked for any idea's that's all people are doing giving idea's/opinions nothing wrong with that but you are correct i would get to a vet asap

stock birds do not fly out

Quoted from bobtail

stock birds do not fly out

so are they ill as well

so stock birds are effected as well ?            is there any safflower in your corn and how / where do you store it ?

are the birds in different lofts and are they in contact with eachother i.e ybs with stock and old birds?

if its prisoner stock affected then its summit you carried in if no new birds been added

is it only prisoner stock affected or all birds ?

is there saflower in your corn mix ? and how / where are you storing it ?

thanks to every one best see the vet in the morning

Whereabouts are you bobtail. Someone might be able to recommend a good vet near you, sounds as if you’ve got to move fast on this one.

good luck mate hope you get it sorted

let us know how you get on
hope it gets better quickly

id see a vet 100 % but if there been poisoned via there corn then best to check there corn , sometimes when safflower and sunflower seeds arent stored right they go mouldy internaly and this can kill your birds so storing corn in a dry place free from damp is a must, the seeds look visabily ok but are mouldy internaly

Quoted from bart

he asked for any idea's that's all people are doing giving idea's/opinions nothing wrong with that but you are correct i would get to a vet asap

Your right, I just find it odd when the only symptom is the birds dying fast and wet droppings we guess the illness when the only sure way is to get it tested as soon as possible

could be a few things,, i would say vet a s a p ,[,live one for them to use as pm ,or feshly died one.or both]

i think the guy asked to see if there was anything he could do, to slow or stop this till he gets to the vet.

im trying to get there normaly black minerals will stabilise there guts or crushed charcoal on corn with yoghurt if poisioned , but if the corn is the source wont help putting anything on it

sorry to hear your birds are dying. you hav'nt had mice or rats about soiling in your pigeon food ?just a idea

get them, checked m8 sounds bad hope you dont lose too heavily, i had paratyphoid in the loft about 2.5 year ago an it near enough wiped me out, best of luck

my dad had this problem at beginning of the season he took them to a vet who soon cured it thats wats prob best for you mate

streppticocci bovis i bet its rife drink a lot of water droppings go from mush to water and a lot of it then slime green birds weight falls off in no time they start to hunch then drop dead

Quoted from OLDYELLOW

im trying to get there normaly black minerals will stabilise there guts or crushed charcoal on corn with yoghurt if poisioned , but if the corn is the source wont help putting anything on it

Black minerals are always worth a try till he can get a proper diagnosis.
Good advice.

and thats in 24 to 48 hours that birds are effected

one thing no ones commented on........YOUNGBIRD SICKNESS KILLS OLDBIRDS TOO!...though poss a bit late now as this usually peaks in june/july.

bobtail..can u tell me if birds droppings are dark and runny,with dark string like droppings?
u mentioned drinking excessive, salmonela and paramyxo are very similar and BOTH have symptoms which are ecessive drinking.
there are several others but uve stated that birds are dying?...so that cuts out several possiblities.

most important advice uve had and u should TAKE it!....get them tested by a vet A.S.A.P.
dont wait ...tomorrow morning ......let us know how u get on.

Quoted from terry mccarthy

streppticocci bovis i bet its rife drink a lot of water droppings go from mush to water and a lot of it then slime green birds weight falls off in no time they start to hunch then drop dead

my first thought too usually with para other ailments there are some symptoms

so streppticocci bovis is a good bet as it seems it really coming to the fore the last few months

sorry to here about your birds