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How many fanciers believe in strain names? i think its time not too worry about names and be abit more like belgiums/dutch. dont care about strain names .looking at some of the big auction sites big names buying total unrelated birds to what they own then selling them in there own names.

very true any bird that steps foot in the owners loft is deemed to be his own strain , forget names and think good pigeons to good pigeons , after all every loft even the champions have birds that arent worthy of keeping

Allthough names are not important i do think a pedigree full of winners is and buying a bird like that usually equates to a name with it.

As My aim is to fly France the only strain I am interested in is the French strain. You put the french cock (flown) to the french hen (flown) and hopefully produce the french offspring.

950s65525 sire supermac  dam dark supreme gsire bolero grandamdouble chequer gs charte supreme gd balletina   ggs nijinsky rest master magrafh tina newton cock five pait nelli how much cos of pedergree not winners

Quoted from ChrisMaidment08

950s65525 sire supermac  dam dark supreme gsire bolero grandamdouble chequer gs charte supreme gd balletina   ggs nijinsky rest master magrafh tina newton cock five pait nelli how much cos of pedergree not winners

sorry never finished16 first prizesinclub and fed

old yellow your were spot on just looked up there is jan arden in the kempeener strain

most important theres sticklebault in the Jan Arden

thats right the sticklebault seem to be a big influence in many a good family

not many distance birds dont have the sticklebault blood in them

yes they do.didnt really take any notice until you look back

thats why im chasing the old blood , have settled for Van Braunes and Van Hees for now im going to blend them in to one family altho they probably share some ancestrial blood somewhere

Quoted from Ronnie

Allthough names are not important i do think a pedigree full of winners is and buying a bird like that usually equates to a name with it.

when you look close at pedigrees several names are on them also other breeds, put winner to winner and you will form your own family,i have blended my birds from 3 strains over the last 10 years.

Can't beat Bertie Bassets for me.

Quoted from paddymac

As My aim is to fly France the only strain I am interested in is the French strain. You put the french cock (flown) to the french hen (flown) and hopefully produce the french offspring.

Kind of agree with this too only look for Barcelona or Palamos. (These are harder to find than winners.)

Hi Peter Pau,

                 i agree with you there, very difficult, the late Great Stan Biss always stated he thought Palamos to be the hardest race point to pigeons, you only have too see how many are home each year from the race to judge, 20 per cent if your lucky on average.

Quoted from paddymac

As My aim is to fly France the only strain I am interested in is the French strain. You put the french cock (flown) to the french hen (flown) and hopefully produce the french offspring.

nearly gave me a fright there
i agree names of, strains mean nowt ,,, but breeding does , and theres a great big difference  

strain names are usually agood guide as to what that particular strain has excelled at , so yes i think they are quite important  to novices who might want to fly there birds up to 200 miles and no more .   so he wont go out spending loads of money on for example  van de wegens

Quoted from Ronnie

Allthough names are not important i do think a pedigree full of winners is and buying a bird like that usually equates to a name with it.

What i mean is that if someone breeds winner to winner and so on he gets a name for himself with his birds when someone knocks on the door to buy some they dont then say i bought a youngun of a winner from niort they say i bought such and such's birds and then the name starts.

can you halp me find detells of the schmen breed   [usa] mosty darkens long distance i time on the day from pau this year [nfc]