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Strag pigeons i.e those that are not capable of going home to their own lofts under their own steam, have traditionally been identified by doomen by removing their "rubber", so that the owner, presuming it ever managed to find its way home, could make an "informed" decision about their bird. The guy who removed your ETS "RUBBER" from your doo is doing you a favour. Or is the ets ring more valuable than the doo? Think about it!!
removing a rubber is stupid if a bird has not homed on time the owner would know unless there a complete idiot , how would the finder know exactly what race it was flying and how many birds had been clocked ? the said bird may be the only returnee the next day alas winning said club and if the race was a smash could even have won fed but no because someones seen fit to remove rubber or as in thread ets transponder ring. SO HOW ON EARTH IS THESE FANCIERS DOING ANYONE A FAVOUR??? As for the value of a pigeon to a owner , pretty worthless in above instances without rubber or ets ring.
removing a rubber is stupid if a bird has not homed on time the owner would know unless there a complete idiot , how would the finder know exactly what race it was flying and how many birds had been clocked ? the said bird may be the only returnee the next day alas winning said club and if the race was a smash could even have won fed but no because someones seen fit to remove rubber or as in thread ets transponder ring. SO HOW ON EARTH IS THESE FANCIERS DOING ANYONE A FAVOUR??? As for the value of a pigeon to a owner , pretty worthless in above instances without rubber or ets ring.
The above makes perfect sense if you are a complete novice and know absolutely nothing about racing doos. However most people recognise a bird that still has more to give but just decides to pop into some other dookit. Birds that go into other peoples lofts and are not run down don't win races. I would guess oldyellow your birds don't win many races, but I'm sure your ets ring collection is first rate.
bad news old yellow once a bird enters another loft that it is not regirested to its race is finnished so removing the rubber is the right thing to do how would you like to get beaten into 2nd place by a bird that didnt fly the whole way home i want to know if my bird has gon in to another loft so please feel free to remove rubber but removing a phone/ets ring what is that all about BADNESS!!!!!!!
The above makes perfect sense if you are a complete novice and know absolutely nothing about racing doos. However most people recognise a bird that still has more to give but just decides to pop into some other dookit. Birds that go into other peoples lofts and are not run down don't win races. I would guess oldyellow your birds don't win many races, but I'm sure your ets ring collection is first rate.
i dont collect ets rings , i have won many races and more than willing to show my cards to anyone who calls to my house .
bad news old yellow once a bird enters another loft that it is not regirested to its race is finnished so removing the rubber is the right thing to do how would you like to get beaten into 2nd place by a bird that didnt fly the whole way home i want to know if my bird has gon in to another loft so please feel free to remove rubber but removing a phone/ets ring what is that all about BADNESS!!!!!!!
if a bird has entered your loft it obviously flew there , its race may not have finished , and only the owner of said bird should remove its rubber, if the bird stopped of for either food or water its still flown the race , birds do go down if not prepaired properly and on hot days more so for water , if a fancier gets your bird in then releases it a small strip of paper with location and time slipped into the life ring will give the owner a better idea of where its been , rather than have there property removed from its leg been either a rubber or ets ring
bad news old yellow once a bird enters another loft that it is not regirested to its race is finnished so removing the rubber is the right thing to do how would you like to get beaten into 2nd place by a bird that didnt fly the whole way home i want to know if my bird has gon in to another loft so please feel free to remove rubber but removing a phone/ets ring what is that all about BADNESS!!!!!!!
Had a few telephone rings removed myself Frank and I would suggest the two things are completely different. If the bird has a telephone ring or is stamped you could phone, if you don't want to phone you should remove race rings and liberate when safe to do so.
And of course there has been a lot of controversey about some peoples doos allegedly going into other peoples lofts before being timed in so as you say they SHOULD be removed to ensure fair play. Nuff said I think.
if a bird has entered your loft it obviously flew there , its race may not have finished , and only the owner of said bird should remove its rubber, if the bird stopped of for either food or water its still flown the race , birds do go down if not prepaired properly and on hot days more so for water , if a fancier gets your bird in then releases it a small strip of paper with location and time slipped into the life ring will give the owner a better idea of where its been , rather than have there property removed from its leg been either a rubber or ets ring
Sorry this is nonsense and could be used to justify cheating by some unscrupulous types. As in I was only helping this poor stray up the road. As I said earlier good doos win races by flying straight home at least mine do!
by the sound of it you be the one with the collection of ets rings
No, indeed I alwas discard rubbers I have removed from birds that are not capable of flying home under their own steam, its only fair to the owners of such poor specimens. Most sensible fanciers appreciate its a small price to pay to learn that a particular bird is not worth its perch. That is why so many strays are on the go, birds that are not capable of flying home are mollycoddled home through stray baskets and who knows what. Was not like that in the old days and funnily enough everyone used to finish the season with only one or two losses. Think about it!
very true most fanciers used to get 12 to 15 rings very few birds were lost , but its win at all costs , and to have one or two members send 100 birds a week each is more common place , there bound to have a few in form with far greater losses , yes there are too many paper birds about , pedigrees were introduced to inflate prices and were far away from the working mans pocket , good birds win races better to have quality over quantity any day in my view. As you say if you have taken a bird up the road near its home and helped it on its way home on the day its raced then yes the rubber should be removed , but common sense would predict that a pigeon flying home would in most cases would beat a car. A bird can make a mistake but more fault id lie at the fanciers door but you cant tell a bird is good enough untill its done what its been bred for and thats racing , are all stray bad ? read this
very true most fanciers used to get 12 to 15 rings very few birds were lost , but its win at all costs , and to have one or two members send 100 birds a week each is more common place , there bound to have a few in form with far greater losses , yes there are too many paper birds about , pedigrees were introduced to inflate prices and were far away from the working mans pocket , good birds win races better to have quality over quantity any day in my view. As you say if you have taken a bird up the road near its home and helped it on its way home on the day its raced then yes the rubber should be removed , but common sense would predict that a pigeon flying home would in most cases would beat a car.
Pleased to see you are "sort of" contradicting what you said earlier oldyellow and agreeing with "me" good doos fly straight up the road and don't drop off for "a helping hand" on the way. Race "rubbers" are just that, race rubbers and should be treated with the same respect they alwas have been.
Best of luck with your doos this weekend if you are lucky enough to get a race.
im sure ill get a race birds will be up early rain sets in around one here tomorrow , i also wish you get a good race tomorrow , id like a few head winds i feel the ybs are having it too easy with the exception of rain of course
Strag pigeons i.e those that are not capable of going home to their own lofts under their own steam, have traditionally been identified by doomen by removing their "rubber", so that the owner, presuming it ever managed to find its way home, could make an "informed" decision about their bird. The guy who removed your ETS "RUBBER" from your doo is doing you a favour. Or is the ets ring more valuable than the doo? Think about it!!
there are birds lost this year by fanciers far better than i will ever be, that have lost birds with many wins behind them,its down to you ,but i would never remove a rubber [or ets ring] its not my place or right to do it,its not my bird,if the bird returns to its owner "late" then it does not matter about the rubber removal [theres a song about that somewhere]the owner will/should know his birds and if they are worth keeping, they are not all " poor specimens"
to learn from your mistakes is easy to learn from someone else' is harder.[bismarck]
there are birds lost this year by fanciers far better than i will ever be, that have lost birds with many wins behind them,its down to you ,but i would never remove a rubber [or ets ring] its not my place or right to do it,its not my bird,if the bird returns to its owner "late" then it does not matter about the rubber removal [theres a song about that somewhere]the owner will/should know his birds and if they are worth keeping, they are not all " poor specimens"
Not been cheeky but I presume you are a novice. Some owners would not know a good doo if it flew in their face. On the other hand some "owners" would know and be capable, as I said earlier of making an "informed" decision. Try and listen and learn by other peoples mistakes its the smart way to do it. Trust "me".
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