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hi . can any 1 help ? my birds seem to be having breathing props they seem to sound a little wheezy... no wet wattles no visible snot . slow in training and slow and well behind in races .. had a guy put some die in there eyes and they said there upper air ways seem to be blocked . can any 1 give me some advice ?? cheers

this may sound stupid but its not put vic on wattle not to much next couple days they willbreath normaly

sounds like a good idea . cheers ..  but im just a little worried that there is more of  a prob than that .. no 1 seems to know what it is !!

are they shaking head and green mucus coming out    try what i said

a little bit of sneezing after food and water .. no mucas or snot ..

have you magnifiing glass open nasel and look or just use vic

thank m8

some 1 said tcp in the water ... any ideas ?

welcome

nazaline them mate will clear the head

never herd of that !! what is it and where do i get it >>?

eve.your birds seem to have a very severe respiratory problem..if left ..over time will clear up..if not give them furol for 5 days ..all the best.

olbas oil on the wattles will clear it up but make sure your loft has plenty ventilation low down at the front and at eave level at the rear

can any 1 tell me where i would get nazaline ??

all these natural products are all well and good, but and i say but if they have a respiratory infection these natural products such as TCP or VIC will do nothing, you will need an antibiotic !!!!!!! but there are certain types for certain jobs make sure you get the right one for the right infection or use something broad spectrum !!! Best of Luck !!!

Doxy + ( doxycyclene, tylan, and suvinol ) or Terramycin ( oxytetracyclene HCI )  the Terramycin is the weaker of the 2 but I use both on occasion at least 7 days lock birds down and dont give any other source of water and dont train while on it I use 5mg per liter ( or quart here I know they are diffrent but close to the same ) I will sometmes use both and a LITTLE extra wont hurt I run 4 days of doxy then 3 days of terra then 2 more doxy at 1.5 this dosage

Quoted from j.bamling

all these natural products are all well and good, but and i say but if they have a respiratory infection these natural products such as TCP or VIC will do nothing, you will need an antibiotic !!!!!!! but there are certain types for certain jobs make sure you get the right one for the right infection or use something broad spectrum !!! Best of Luck !!!

bang on right just add a little to the post the cause of it has to found too most likely u have to many birds in the loft or ventilation not working right   and that a hard one to get right
go with the antibiotic  all the best

Quoted from j.bamling

all these natural products are all well and good, but and i say but if they have a respiratory infection these natural products such as TCP or VIC will do nothing, you will need an antibiotic !!!!!!! but there are certain types for certain jobs make sure you get the right one for the right infection or use something broad spectrum !!! Best of Luck !!!

i agree see a vet probably will get some baytrill 10% , or whatevers hot for respirity these days , a well ventilated loft and plenty of air flow will keep the respirity at bay , i'd be looking at the ventilation , its no good treating and treating when a few modifications will be the biggest prevention

o yes if giving antibiotics take away any source of calcium ie grit

you want as much ventilation as possible but no drafts at all as this can cause as many problems !!! and the hardest job of all is the same in every loft dont keep too many birds LOL