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bart
August 12, 2008, 8:59am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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dont you  not think they would hug the east coast all the way up to peterhead
i spoke with my brother in law he said it poured with rain sunday morning at st andrews
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Quoted from bart
dont you  not think they would hug the east coast all the way up to peterhead
i spoke with my brother in law he said it poured with rain sunday morning at st andrews


I was stood a the back garden watching for the Fife birds home in St. Andrews on Sunday morning. Broken cloud and sunshine. The wind was strong enough though.



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Whats it called Cumbernauld
August 12, 2008, 10:39am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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All the best to you Tom.Wonder if with a name like redwhiteblue, he perhaps thinks the Midland fed are maybe all Celtic Fans.

I many moons ago flew in the midland Fed,and he's begining to give me the Hump.


Power and good luck to all feds, the poor returns experienced by some should not be discussed in this tone, or manor.

Real Pigeon men suffer with such loses with out having to withstand this UNADULTARATED RUBBISH.



Cheers

Rab Smith


Cheers

Rab Smith
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Delboy
August 12, 2008, 12:08pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

It isnt the winning, its the taken part.BULLS..T
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[quote=2809]All the best to you Tom.Wonder if with a name like redwhiteblue, he perhaps thinks the Midland fed are maybe all Celtic Fans.

I many moons ago flew in the midland Fed,and he's begining to give me the Hump.


Power and good luck to all feds, the poor returns experienced by some should not be discussed in this tone, or manor.

Real Pigeon men suffer with such loses with out having to withstand this UNADULTARATED RUBBISH.

I think you have the wrong end of the stick Rab.I dont think redwhiteandblue was having a go at anyone.I think he was merely pointing out that he knew the returns in the Midland fed have been terrible again this year going into the Solway. Tom Corrie says the returns have been great well that is great news for a change but if they have been great then surely everyone should be getting their birds home and not just him. I dont think redwhiteandblue is at all interested in Tom Corrie just the fact that he seems to be projecting a false picture of the races they have had this year?????? I know for a fact, flying in the Midland fed for the last 4 years, that when you take your ybs into the Solway area then they are hammered with the peregines.Losses, over the last 3 years especially, have been outragious.Yet they still vote to go down that route to win a first prize card.They tell lies about returns etc.  I would like to ask one question to Mr.Corrie, why, if the Solway is a good area to race from, have you and the rest of your members ,only sent about 10% of your yb team each week?





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Blue Tooner
August 12, 2008, 12:45pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from bart
dont you  not think they would hug the east coast all the way up to peterhead
i spoke with my brother in law he said it poured with rain sunday morning at st andrews


I know what you're saying Bart, but experience from these racepoints, ie Alnwick and Whitley Bay, leads me to the conclusion that the y/bs will try to come over the water as when at my previous address which was not far from the sea, the birds, especially the leaders, always came out of the east when there was any west in the wind and fanciers right on the waters edge seen them coming in from the sea. The latecomers probably hugged the coast or took less water, could that be because they were not so fit, who knows.
The wind turned North west in Peterhead on Sunday morning with the heavy rain clearing out into the sea which would have been right in the birds path if they took the direct route. It will be interesting to sea how many turn up or are reported. I would suggest any that do will be ones that wern't going to make it anyway, even on a good day.
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Simeon Turner
August 12, 2008, 1:13pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Don't Let the B****rds grind you down!
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We got 18 out of 19 from Marlbrough - 134 miles to us.

Bit of an erratic race with alot of birds coming out of the back!

Some people I konw had a few missing.
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August 12, 2008, 3:07pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS RAB BUT HE SEEMS TO BE VERY INTERESTED IN WHATS GOING ON IN THE CORRIE LOFT I WONDER IF HE SAW ME AT CARNWATH THIS MORNING TOSSING THE SHOW BIRDS


Please do not shout I am not one of your patients, I am not interested in what happens in the Corrie loft, I am not interested in the Midland Fed I am only interested in the welfare of the pigeons.  I have a few good friends in this fed who have no pigeons left to compete in the programme, these guys are sending 40 & 50 pigeons and I do not question the integrity of these fanciers therefore I can only assume that there is a problem racing into the Solway area.  As for your friend Rab, he can start complaining about returns when he starts competitive racing.  It must be really interesting keeping fantails if he feels he has to get involved in ths debate!!  Why is it you have only sent 22 pigeons in total to three races ??  As I have stated earlier you are one of the biggest birdage fanciers in your club therefore why is it you feel the need to have a go when I am merely stating the facts that I have been told about these returns.  If you want me to start about the officials of the Fed just let me know and I will be happy to oblige!!
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bart
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thats the thing bluetooner
you will never know webmaster has told you it was dry in st andrews so thats my myth out the window and yours look more of a correct one
but if you moved inland how far would you move?
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Whats it called Cumbernauld
August 12, 2008, 6:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I am more than aware of the problems with east v West arguement within the Midland fed.

All i am saying, is it is there right to collectavley make the desision to go dowm the west coast if they  choose to do so.

Whats more they should have the right to do so, without being wound up after every race.

Redwhiteblue you are entitiled to you oppinion,and in many ways think you are spot on.

However it is no ones business barr theres


Happy days
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August 12, 2008, 6:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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elgin is 60 miles west of peterhead only 21 birds clocked in two days also inverurie took 8 hours for 3 birds just look at the most other clubs in fed for returns a disaster
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August 12, 2008, 8:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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i think that the bluetooner might be spot on it is about time we started to look at the lib sites and set a good line of flight but we also have to get the right person to liberate our pigeons for i think that clashing is also a contributing factor as this is just babies we are throwing away year after year.
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perhaps we are all to blame.five races and we are at 160 miles next race 240 miles members passed this crazy program at agm and i am as bad. have not attended last three agms. started program with 25 young 3 left 22 lost in 3weeks.  john thompson
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In response  about Midland federation flying down the west coast , the members voted on this at every AGM  and voted for same , so certain individuals didnt get the vote they wished and walked out in a childish manner as they had at another AGM when they didnt get their way. As for your continued interest  Redwhiteblue in the amount of pigeons one individual sends smells of envy and as for your comment about shouting that is outrageous making reference to patient and i would expect an apoligy to be logged to Mr Corrie, who is only stated his returns over the  last three weeks the same way anyother member has to keep everyone updated and for interest.
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our 1st 2 races were from 55mls then our 3rd race was 91mls, this week we are at the same racepoint 91mls and so far i have lost 4 birds 1 from each of the 1st 2 races and 2 from 2 from the 3rd i think that most losses are down to birds being pushed to far to quickly
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August 12, 2008, 8:55pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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the north of scotland have called a special general meeting on thursday evening to look into changing the race program
to see if members still want to go to northallerton or not
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perhaps we are all to blame.five races and we are at 160 miles next race 240 miles members passed this crazy program at agm and i am as bad. have not attended last three agms. started program with 25 young 3 left 22 lost in 3weeks.  john thompson


Hi John
Yes your are partly to blame for not attending your feds AGM
But your race program for y/b is to far too soon
carlsberg is correct in my opion and he is flying in Derbyshire not to the North of Scotland
Hope your meeting is sensible and remember it is y/bs
Cheers
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nogin
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UP THE TUFTY CLUB.
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HOMER 49 ARE YOU BLIND OR WHAT ?


IF YOU'RE NOT FAST YOU'RE LAST!  
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thats the thing bluetooner
you will never know webmaster has told you it was dry in st andrews so thats my myth out the window and yours look more of a correct one
but if you moved inland how far would you move?


The fed would have to study the maps carefully, possibly around 30- 40 miles west of Alnwick (or even further?) which would give the youngsters the opportunity to cross the firth of forth where it is not at it's widest and also give a direct line over land to the centre of our feds radius and do away with the dogleg. But then again would this bring the Pentland Hills into play? The emphasis here is the welfare of the pigeons and not which clubs gain or lose distance wise.
The first person to get the blame for a bad race is the race controller, but all I can say is that they try their best to give us a race, and if it turns bad they get it in the neck and the other side of the coin, if they think the forecast is bad and don't liberate, there are cries of "why didn't he liberate" they can never win.

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