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johno
August 7, 2008, 5:51pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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the race controller has enough on their plate. communication is a federation issue and should be an agenda item at fed level. as bigda`s post points out regardless of what they say he will not believe them "if they really told me what was going on" so the content of any post on here would not be believed.
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Weather permitting how long will it take to liberate the 10 feds.that we know of sitting at Otterburn on Sat. given the largest Fed in Scotland will be there.
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It was based on experience, Johno. One of a number of liberations at Otterburn was attacked by peregrine(s) as recently as 2007. I think it may have been Fife or Dundee. Lanarkshire took rockets with them the following week, and launched prior to lib, a first in the UK I believe.




spot on, the kingdom fed went before us and got hit by peregrines... then we went and got the same! these raptors are not daft and they ceratinly know what a pigeon transporter is, well in there eyes McDonalds on wheels!!

were gonna try the rockets this year to hopefully prevent a strike, but then again with so many feds there this week how are we gonna prevent clashing!

thirteen feds say liberating at 30 min intevals would take 6 1/2 hours, cant see this happening so be prepared for worse on saturday.
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spot on, the kingdom fed went before us and got hit by peregrines... then we went and got the same! these raptors are not daft and they ceratinly know what a pigeon transporter is, well in there eyes McDonalds on wheels!!

were gonna try the rockets this year to hopefully prevent a strike, but then again with so many feds there this week how are we gonna prevent clashing!

thirteen feds say liberating at 30 min intevals would take 6 1/2 hours, cant see this happening so be prepared for worse on saturday.


surely it would make sense for the feds from the west & east to liberate with their neighbouring feds, ie lanarkshire & glasgow as an example surely safety in numbers

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rednyellow - Glasgow and Renfrew have the same controller and are across the river Clyde from each other so might make sense
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spot on, the kingdom fed went before us and got hit by peregrines... then we went and got the same! these raptors are not daft and they ceratinly know what a pigeon transporter is, well in there eyes McDonalds on wheels!!

were gonna try the rockets this year to hopefully prevent a strike, but then again with so many feds there this week how are we gonna prevent clashing!

thirteen feds say liberating at 30 min intevals would take 6 1/2 hours, cant see this happening so be prepared for worse on saturday.


Hi
How about Sunday
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thats what i was thinking saturday for east coast
sunday for west side due to the weather
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August 7, 2008, 7:06pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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wat about south lanarkshire are they going this week ,big rumpus up there last week
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wat about south lanarkshire are they going this week ,big rumpus up there last week


where at otterburn
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thats what i was thinking saturday for east coast
sunday for west side due to the weather



Sunday looks like being difficult for westerly feds with a very strong west wind forecast. I hope this changes as it can quite easily.
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i say its not a bad idea taking those big rockets  with your fed and letting them off  just before liberation  say ten minutes before  i think it would  upset the peregrines concentration and it would  bugger off those rockets send out shock waves and if the don't react to them, the next time it could be the breech  loader for real  both barrels  
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http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_wind.html
now this has changed since yesterday about 5 times the wind on this site says south easterly
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South Lanarkshire are at  Ridsdale 9 miles below Otterburn due to go at 9am.
Lanarkshire are due to go at 9am from Otterburn
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how did they know they were peregrines. did they attack from the air. also this implies that the people liberating were not able to see the attackers prior to liberation. from the pictures and personal experience at otterburn liberation site you would have a good chance of seeing raptors above you. nothing to give them cover. also if peregrines were attacking why did federations continue to liberate? a lot this does not add up.


My experience of drivers/convoyers at Stonehaven, the majority wouldn't know a peregrine if it landed on their transporter. Peregrines at height, against a clear sky and the sun, very difficult to see. Nothing to give the pergrines cover....nothing for your pigeons to get cover in either. Why would feds continue to liberate...lets get home, we dont get payed anymore if we are here for another 4 hours. Think you'll find it does add up.

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and I say to you sir practice what you preach.

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spot on, the kingdom fed went before us and got hit by peregrines... then we went and got the same! these raptors are not daft and they ceratinly know what a pigeon transporter is, well in there eyes McDonalds on wheels!!

were gonna try the rockets this year to hopefully prevent a strike, but then again with so many feds there this week how are we gonna prevent clashing!

thirteen feds say liberating at 30 min intevals would take 6 1/2 hours, cant see this happening so be prepared for worse on saturday.


this says it all. the people who have identified something which they report back as being peregrines watch one liberation being attacked and then in their wisdom let another set of pigeons free to be attacked. why would the federation return to this race point given that they have been told of these events. further has anyone considered the effect of letting off rockets will have on pigeons. i would seriously doubt the sense in putting people, who knowingly liberate pigeons into a guaranteed peregrine attack, in charge of potentially lethal fireworks. as i have stated before this does not add up.

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peregrine attcks in 2007. 2008 thirteen feds booked to liberate on same morning. welcome to dooman land.
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peregrine attcks in 2007. 2008 thirteen feds booked to liberate on same morning. welcome to dooman land.


peregrine attacks everyday rocketman
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