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The most enduring attribute one can offer any one is their trust. It is the betraying of the trust that cuts deepest. A complete stranger can offer a deal - too good to be true, pr just good enough - and when one puts their trust there and is ripped off.. well it's red face time andfeeling sheepish to foolish. But when one has a decent report with another person, akin to friendship, then that rankles, and rankles big time. So yes we all have been, and will again no doubt, be fooled, conned, but that is life too unfortunately. Was just joshing you Duncan as you well know... but for the others that don't he .............. lol . Mind Coxy had a few sleepless nights I'm certain lol. P.s. Duncan i live in Alberta Canada.
The most enduring attribute one can offer any one is their trust. It is the betraying of the trust that cuts deepest. A complete stranger can offer a deal - too good to be true, pr just good enough - and when one puts their trust there and is ripped off.. well it's red face time andfeeling sheepish to foolish. But when one has a decent report with another person, akin to friendship, then that rankles, and rankles big time. So yes we all have been, and will again no doubt, be fooled, conned, but that is life too unfortunately. Was just joshing you Duncan as you well know... but for the others that don't he .............. lol . Mind Coxy had a few sleepless nights I'm certain lol. P.s. Duncan i live in Alberta Canada.
Yes well I know I will have my day with my pal Coxy, It's a pity I drove 300 miles and the big c##t wasnae in but maybe next time
Yes well I know I will have my day with my pal Coxy, It's a pity I drove 300 miles and the big c##t wasnae in but maybe next time
Duncan what goes around comes around mate. Rise above it, onwards and upwards. I am a great believer in the old saying ' if you can't do someone a good turn don't do them a bad one...... but they only ever take the pi*s once' Regards, Paul.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Duncan what goes around comes around mate. Rise above it, onwards and upwards. I am a great believer in the old saying ' if you can't do someone a good turn don't do them a bad one...... but they only ever take the pi*s once' Regards, Paul.
I have learned a lot form ma big pal Coxy and thankfully so has a lot of others on this site and other sites as well, also so has his local police, he is a prolific conman but not the brightest button on the jacket The good thing is he is just very minute part of life, like a boil on your butt, very sore at the time and something you have to squeeze all the poison out of if you can reach it
I have learned a lot form ma big pal Coxy and thankfully so has a lot of others on this site and other sites as well, also so has his local police, he is a prolific conman but not the brightest button on the jacket The good thing is he is just very minute part of life, like a boil on your butt, very sore at the time and something you have to squeeze all the poison out of if you can reach it
LOL
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
UNTIL THERE IS A FEE THAT HAS TO BE PAYED FOR SELLING BIRDS WOT IS THE PROBLEM ? SOME OF YOU WOULD FALL OUT WITH YOUR OWN SHADOWS.
I dont really think anyone is falling out here they are just expressing their opinions. I personally think it is a great opportunity for people to buy birds and in particular newstarters. The idea of fees I think should only apply to the more commercially minded sellers but from what I can see ( during my short time on here ) they seem to be getting run out of town so to speak. There will always be a market for pigeons and this forum benefits sellers and buyers. Maybe if sellers want to sell for the coming year they should donate to the auction. The buyers could then give some feedback on the auction birds and it could be used as a point of reference for any future buyers particularly new starts. Just my thoughts on the matter.
Paul.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Just an opinion Any member that sells of THEIR excess stock cheap to members should not pay a fee, any member that sells of OTHERS excess stock for as much as they can should pay a fee, any member that just uses the site for this purpose should pay a higher fee
Duncan what goes around comes around mate. Rise above it, onwards and upwards. I am a great believer in the old saying ' if you can't do someone a good turn don't do them a bad one...... but they only ever take the pi*s once' Regards, Paul. But Duncan's a Scot... and they are still singing about Edwards Army 800 years ago... to the Welsh / Irish and French even at Rugby games ... Oh Bonny Scotland when we will see the likes again... Glad no Scot is after me lol they certainly have long memories and never forget lol Unless of course as many suggest, they haven't nowt to sing about since lol. Duncan I've just moved to Moroco... via Turkey... cold turkey lol
Duncan what goes around comes around mate. Rise above it, onwards and upwards. I am a great believer in the old saying ' if you can't do someone a good turn don't do them a bad one...... but they only ever take the pi*s once' Regards, Paul. But Duncan's a Scot... and they are still singing about Edwards Army 800 years ago... to the Welsh / Irish and French even at Rugby games ... Oh Bonny Scotland when we will see the likes again... Glad no Scot is after me lol they certainly have long memories and never forget lol Unless of course as many suggest, they haven't nowt to sing about since lol. Duncan I've just moved to Moroco... via Turkey... cold turkey lol
Aye Laddie but I'm a Scot as well.......LOL
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Duncan what goes around comes around mate. Rise above it, onwards and upwards. I am a great believer in the old saying ' if you can't do someone a good turn don't do them a bad one...... but they only ever take the pi*s once' Regards, Paul. But Duncan's a Scot... and they are still singing about Edwards Army 800 years ago... to the Welsh / Irish and French even at Rugby games ... Oh Bonny Scotland when we will see the likes again... Glad no Scot is after me lol they certainly have long memories and never forget lol Unless of course as many suggest, they haven't nowt to sing about since lol. Duncan I've just moved to Moroco... via Turkey... cold turkey lol
It is quite disturbing reading when people start ganging up on people selling birds, I have noticed it more with the fancy/flying breeds than those people selling so called racing pigeons. You get dealers in everything has anyone brought a car from a car dealer?
As I mentioned before buying any animals it is a case of `buyer beware'. Unfortunately there are unscrupulous people selling things in all walks of life. Prospective purchasers clue your self up and ask the right questions - do your best to view/handle before you buy or take someone experienced with you if you are a beginner. Do not just amtrak on someones word !!
What I would look for :-
Nice perky disposition. No lumps or bumps No discharge from the eyes or nostrils. Have a look down its throat, nice and pink? no mucas or inflammations. A sheen on the feathers (wear a dark top and and hold the bird against it, you should have a white dust (bloom) which settles on the fabric. Open the wings and let them snap shut, feeling for tightness in the elbow joint. If it is a flying/performing breed see it fly/perform. Look at the conditions in which it is kept.
With the fancy show breeds no-one is going to sell you their best !! try and get some relatives of the finest birds and then work at it ! Rome was not built in a day.
mr gray you talk 100% sense so you wont last long on here because most on here aint got any they will come on here and pull you to bits because they know better
mr gray you talk 100% sense so you wont last long on here because most on here aint got any they will come on here and pull you to bits because they know better
oh happy days
Correction - You get pulled to bits becuase every post is basically a load of <<rubbish>>
Adam I agree mate, it is always a case of buyer beware. I became involved in one of the earlier threads because I saw the same person advertising the same birds on two different websites, with two different stories as to why they were selling. Alarm bells immediately rang, and as someone who was deceived when buying birds as a novice, I wouldnt want the same to happen to someone else.
Unsurprisingly, as soon as I had posted on here about the birds, the advert on the other website mysteriously disappeared, perhaps confirming my suspicions???
It is quite disturbing reading when people start ganging up on people selling birds, I have noticed it more with the fancy/flying breeds than those people selling so called racing pigeons. You get dealers in everything has anyone brought a car from a car dealer?
As I mentioned before buying any animals it is a case of `buyer beware'. Unfortunately there are unscrupulous people selling things in all walks of life. Prospective purchasers clue your self up and ask the right questions - do your best to view/handle before you buy or take someone experienced with you if you are a beginner. Do not just amtrak on someones word !!
What I would look for :-
Nice perky disposition. No lumps or bumps No discharge from the eyes or nostrils. Have a look down its throat, nice and pink? no mucas or inflammations. A sheen on the feathers (wear a dark top and and hold the bird against it, you should have a white dust (bloom) which settles on the fabric. Open the wings and let them snap shut, feeling for tightness in the elbow joint. If it is a flying/performing breed see it fly/perform. Look at the conditions in which it is kept.
With the fancy show breeds no-one is going to sell you their best !! try and get some relatives of the finest birds and then work at it ! Rome was not built in a day.
Adam i'am novice and when i buy a bird first a read about breeders and his results and then i go with someone with experience to take it.If i read on Net about fanciers and birds ist not necesary to buy.Now ist a world at PC and Internet.
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