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ChrisMaidment08
July 18, 2008, 9:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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two vally fanciers tossed 58 at chepstow to fly to porth 28 were flying round caldicot at 11 in dark let go at 6 30 losses in two feds massive whats youer losses like


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July 18, 2008, 9:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Up to now dropped two, one was a challenge bird so really gutted.

I have heard about local fanciers dropping big numbers though.

We did have a bad toss when i went to work i was three quarters down but thankfully only two now although one was brought back to us today in a box by Carl (thanks Carl really Appreciated)

Must state this is ony from training dropped 4 off the loft since January


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ChrisMaidment08
July 18, 2008, 9:53pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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god help them this week massive losses from 50 miles further this week   where were you pjc and how many down


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July 18, 2008, 10:07pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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before this year the last time i bred young birds was 2001 [the year before my daughter died] i lost 4 one night ,2 came back the next day,one was reported, and one was never heard from again.
this year [so far] i have dropped 16 [and only had one training toss] all of my losses were from the top of the loft,none have been reported and once gone they stay gone,what has happened to the days when if a bird was missing at night most of the time it would turn up next morning,i have had nestpairs go up and only one come back,birds on the roof watching the other birds eating and still bugger off,i was looking forward to racing young birds this year now i am not too sure as i am trying to build a team for the future,but with these losses what future?


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Ed Bourque
July 18, 2008, 11:50pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I hate to hear of all the loses you gents are having, I am here in the usa I have not had this kind of loses you all talk about. I started with 39 youngs birds and still have 38 done been to 20 mile mark they come out the crate and head stright home. they are also on open loft.
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July 19, 2008, 5:15am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Quoted from chrisss
before this year the last time i bred young birds was 2001 [the year before my daughter died] i lost 4 one night ,2 came back the next day,one was reported, and one was never heard from again.
this year [so far] i have dropped 16 [and only had one training toss] all of my losses were from the top of the loft,none have been reported and once gone they stay gone,what has happened to the days when if a bird was missing at night most of the time it would turn up next morning,i have had nestpairs go up and only one come back,birds on the roof watching the other birds eating and still bugger off,i was looking forward to racing young birds this year now i am not too sure as i am trying to build a team for the future,but with these losses what future?


we've a re-starter in our club having similar problems so it could be just part of establishing a new loft. i didn't use a settling cage when i started ( neither has he ) but i do now . i think it is essential. put some cocks to one side..and race mainly hens..i've had unraced yearling cocks win . sorry if i'm teaching 'granny to suck eggs' . i've only 20 ybs this year, but i've 6 more put to one side. work means i can't race ybs much so i've 9 hens sent today..it's normally a safe racepoint...but the forecast is bad. our transporter was heaving so perhaps the majority accept heavy losses as par for the course. all the best
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ChrisMaidment08
July 19, 2008, 1:12pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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north road shrewsbury had fantastic returns today


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pjc
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Hullavington last week and returns were very good, and Same again tomorrow.
The first 5 races are Sunday libs to prevent clashing.
How did Rhonda do today?


Phil
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Quoted from spin cycle


we've a re-starter in our club having similar problems so it could be just part of establishing a new loft. i didn't use a settling cage when i started ( neither has he ) but i do now . i think it is essential. put some cocks to one side..and race mainly hens..i've had unraced yearling cocks win . sorry if i'm teaching 'granny to suck eggs' . i've only 20 ybs this year, but i've 6 more put to one side. work means i can't race ybs much so i've 9 hens sent today..it's normally a safe racepoint...but the forecast is bad. our transporter was heaving so perhaps the majority accept heavy losses as par for the course. all the best


quote it is essential to put some cocks a side and race mainly hens. a cock is only as good as the hen you pair it to. if you take 10 yb cocks over to next season you need 10 hens. i  think a hen is a very underrated bird.
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billy wilson
July 19, 2008, 5:33pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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touch wood never lossed any young birds training,we are training 63 young birds 33 more than we have ever had,but when they go to the first race next week it could be a different kettle of fish we will send half of them as we do every year,so hoping for the best good luck to all you fanciers out there lets hope theres no bad news next week.
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billy wilson
July 19, 2008, 5:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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forgot to say chris the two van der rhees we got off you both going strong and good trappers to hope they come first next week not much chance of them flying arround.cheers
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Quoted from pjc
Hullavington last week and returns were very good, and Same again tomorrow.
The first 5 races are Sunday libs to prevent clashing.
How did Rhonda do today?


Phil


not sure on ronda   they say last week terrable i have 8 noone wants back its a waste of time


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July 23, 2008, 9:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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ive had my young birds on training chuck and had a lot of losses and injuries so been a bit gutted   im talking about races btw


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July 24, 2008, 3:07pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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started the week with 18 after 2 tosses monday tuesday now down to 12 had to broken legs and one came home with its leg hanging off where are they all going!!!!
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July 24, 2008, 6:34pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Damian i dunno where in cheshire you are but i am in Winsford.Have you noticed how many more Hawks there is around near us now? I am not saying thats the problem just saying it could be.Ive been pretty lucky up to now with training but this week the birds seem to be struggling a bit on traing with me beating them home most day's.But i do throw em up in full cloud cover and they are at a new training point this week.
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i m in same boat as " chriss " just keep seeing them go from top off loft  so far up and a way  stoped of on house  roof for a look next day  nothing at all these are whites so u can see them easy if still around no report s at all
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Damian i dunno where in cheshire you are but i am in Winsford.Have you noticed how many more Hawks there is around near us now? I am not saying thats the problem just saying it could be.Ive been pretty lucky up to now with training but this week the birds seem to be struggling a bit on traing with me beating them home most day's.But i do throw em up in full cloud cover and they are at a new training point this week.


hi mate in warrington do have a few hawks and others about have had a few scares. I took mine 5 miles monday they were back in 25 mins i dropped one, then same again tuesday they seemed to take for ever this toss dropped 6, i had 2 return in the morning 1 with a bust leg. Then yesterday night though i would leave training and let out round the loft lost 4, then and one came in with its leg hanging off so had to do the nasty. Have had big losses since i started to get young a few months back.
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It has been a poor start to the young bird season,have lost 23, half the team, from off the loft,training and one from the first race and 6 from the second at this rate no way I will finish the program all have phone no rings.
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shotgun tim
July 24, 2008, 7:59pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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i lost 27 on my first toss(about 12 mile) that was 3 weeks ago yesterday i had 2 reported from that toss 1 in durham (about 80 mile away)the other in peterhead(about 130 mile away in the opposite direction)im down to 16 ybs to race
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