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Someone brought a pigeon to me today, has anyone seen anything like this, the owners said it developed over the last few days and the bird pecked it and busrt the skin and blood came out, always looked like bruising but never yellow or discoloured till it burst








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too much protein in the feed feed light should go on its own , if not wrap thread around it to stop the circulation of blood then it will drop off


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is it a protein blister


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Thanks guys The owner will be very happy at that


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look far worse than they are


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feed it barley for a while not a mix and put garlic in the water for all the birds  too much protien causes the lumps as stated tie the lump off at the base and it will drop off




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I use Dental floss to tie around it as low as I can get it. it will drop off in several days.
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I've never seen one that size. Had 3 over time, 3 different birds, chest area. Burst and healed of own accord without any 'help' from me.

Still puzzled as to cause; said to be thro feeding too high protein? But the burst isn't protein it is 'liquid fat' [its Sunday name: fatty lipoma] and only affects 1 bird, not the whole flock? Think its more likely a 'disorder' in the individual bird, which seems to right itself, and nothing to do with the feeding.
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It looks like a dangleberry I have seen it on horses but not birds
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It looks like a dangleberry I have seen it on horses but not birds


its some size awe dangle berry   and in the wrong place .to much protein in the food a would also say
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Exacttly the same place as I had on a white bird. I never touched it and it just dropped off after a few weeks.
See: http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1213052348/
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Exacttly the same place as I had on a white bird. I never touched it and it just dropped off after a few weeks.
See: http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1213052348/


Yes it looks like the very same thing, the owners are just going to leave it alone and see what happens in the next few days


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Its a protein lump, It wouldn't hurt to put them on tea for a week.


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I've never seen one that size. Had 3 over time, 3 different birds, chest area. Burst and healed of own accord without any 'help' from me.

Still puzzled as to cause; said to be thro feeding too high protein? But the burst isn't protein it is 'liquid fat' [its Sunday name: fatty lipoma] and only affects 1 bird, not the whole flock? Think its more likely a 'disorder' in the individual bird, which seems to right itself, and nothing to do with the feeding.


allways heard these as protein lumps , but as post above suggests ,it usualy only affects one bird ,so i have allways doubted that , however tying cotton thread around the base of it will stop the blood suppjy to it,, and itll just fall off ,
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yup id leave feed light i.e barley it will go on its own , however the  size of it if knocked will bleed alot , so use some thread and wrap round then at least wont bleed alot


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I've never seen one that size. Had 3 over time, 3 different birds, chest area. Burst and healed of own accord without any 'help' from me.

Still puzzled as to cause; said to be thro feeding too high protein? But the burst isn't protein it is 'liquid fat' [its Sunday name: fatty lipoma] and only affects 1 bird, not the whole flock? Think its more likely a 'disorder' in the individual bird, which seems to right itself, and nothing to do with the feeding.


Maybe it is the individual birds inability to deal with protein and produce these lumps, too much protein in the diet would build up fat reserves, I wonder if any birds produce a second one or are they a one off in any bird
Funny thing is Billy has a fatty lipoma lump on his bicep that developed after an injection at the hospital


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its a protein lump ok and it turned me right off my dinner  
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They call them protein lumps but not sure that is what causes it. You can tie it off as previously said but i used to just get some tissue or a hanky grab it tightly and then twist it. It will burst and all the will come away, just clean up the area with a bit of antiseptic, and remove any remaining bits. Advanced ones will come away in whole and have like a root.
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its a protein lump ok and it turned me right off my dinner  


The woman almost when I offered to bite it off  


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Maybe it is the individual birds inability to deal with protein and produce these lumps, too much protein in the diet would build up fat reserves, I wonder if any birds produce a second one or are they a one off in any bird
Funny thing is Billy has a fatty lipoma lump on his bicep that developed after an injection at the hospital


I think its down to a problem with the individual pigeon too. My first case was about 4 years ago, it had already burst, there was red blood running down  the bird's leg and I had no clue what was going on.

Asked around including Rod Adams at a moot, and it was he who gave me the right name for it: fatty lipoma. He also thought it was 'too much protein in the diet' but I am still unconvinced that it is - my birds breeding and racing mixes are both shown as meduim fat diets, so can't for the life of me see how too much protein comes into my 3 cases of it. The other bit I'd mentioned was all birds are on same diet, so why only one affected, and, in my experience anyway, affected each bird only once?

Have lost all of the stuff I had on this from that time, but since you mention Billy, there's an interesting article on human fatty lipoma at this link. Funny thing about that is we are still no further forward - the article says medics know what it is, agree its harmless, but they still do not know what causes it.  


http://chennaionline.com/health/Homoeopathy/2005/05homoeo42.asp
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