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stress then illness is the reason we loose so many / and going by some of the coments on here some of you are going to be sick very soon .
this is my first years racing young birds, the sad fact of life nowdays is that despite the effort i[and the birds] have put in i expect to be sick at the end of the year ,i am starting with a lot of help from guys on this site,with a team of 30,i want some sort of old bird team for next year ,so i will stop if/when i get to 16,do you think i am right or should i fight to the bitter end and maybe end up with nothing
to learn from your mistakes is easy to learn from someone else' is harder.[bismarck]
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chrisss myhumble opinion would be fly the 1st 3 races to 100mile and stop all your young cocks and save them for next year...
ni bhrisfidh said me mar ta an fonn saoirse, agus saoirse mhuintir na heireann i mo chroi tiochfaid ;a eigin nuair a bheidh an fonn saoirse seo le taispeaint ag daoine go leir heireann ansin t...
Chrisss In the fed I fly in it has been proved and proved again that y/birds more than benefit from having 4-5 races under their wing. Many a fancier that have tried to bolster their old bird team with youngsters that have only had a race or two only to become unstuck with them as yearlings. Pick your days that you race them, leave them at home if the temperature is 30C or more and beware of strong tail winds.
i have 38 young birds all must the the race programme to the coast unless unfit or injured, and most of my hens will be off over channel.
i understand where you are coming from on this, but i have no old birds at all [to race,the ones i have will be 7/8 years old next year]thats why i was asking about stopping some if the losses get to bad,but by the look of things if they don't go this year,i might lose them next year as yearlings anyway!!!
to learn from your mistakes is easy to learn from someone else' is harder.[bismarck]
I would like my YBs to do the programme, but I know that the wing moult will stop most of my 1st round after 3/4 races, and my 2nd round won't be ready for the 1st races, but will hopefully carry me thro to the end of the programme. I think the distance they fly as a YB has little bearing on likely performance as yearlings. My best YB only got 4 to 82 miles but did 5/399 as a yearling, with one mistake at 220 miles; another did 5/187 miles as a YB and 6/399 as a yearling, no mistakes; and yet another did 5/187 miles as a YB, one mistake at 60 miles (my fault), and was dropped at 5/330 miles as a yearling.
Last year I changed my YB training to evening and, after the 1st couple of tosses, to all-weather ie: starting in, come through or finishing in a patch of heavy-ish rain, strong tail- or head- or cross- wind, or rolling thunder & lightning or full cloud cover. I also trained with another clubmate flying further than me, so I got in break-training too. Never went further than 20 miles.
This year I paid more attention to schooling them, especially basket / trap / feed, to hard-wire 'liberation straight-home, straight-in and fed' in them. I've also managed to reduce my 'losses off the top' from 6 last year to 2 this year through that, because the first week they ever got outside the loft was in a basket.
Continued my training as last year; started 1st round at 10 miles, but reckoned I just insulted their intelligence, they came out the basket, did a 1/2 turn in the sky and headed for home - all home before me. So moved them to 20 miles, same; so picked a 20mph headwind day - they took longer to get started for home, but again, all home before me. Last night, lighter headwind, with the threat of rain in it, low continuous raincloud cover, they took about 5 minutes to get their bearings (too long) then straight home and again, all home before me.
My training is done after work, so I only go every 2nd night.
i understand where you are coming from on this, but i have no old birds at all [to race,the ones i have will be 7/8 years old next year]thats why i was asking about stopping some if the losses get to bad,but by the look of things if they don't go this year,i might lose them next year as yearlings anyway!!!
our best yearlings have raced very little as young birds in fact one of them had only been to 2 x 55 mile racea - two others 1 x 55 mile race - 2 have been to 270 miles as yearlings - and the other is currently in Lille awaiting liberation - having also been to 270 miles
all the yearlings I lost this year - barring one - did the full young bird programme to 240 miles last year
this is my first years racing young birds, the sad fact of life nowdays is that despite the effort i[and the birds] have put in i expect to be sick at the end of the year ,i am starting with a lot of help from guys on this site,with a team of 30,i want some sort of old bird team for next year ,so i will stop if/when i get to 16,do you think i am right or should i fight to the bitter end and maybe end up with nothing
It really depends if you are after a race team or team to breed from.If you have stock birds race the full programme providing the birds are in good condition.If you want to breed of em next year then it may be wise to stop a few pairs half way through .Just my opinion i was in the same boat last year .I lost my stock birds when i moved house and have raced all my yearlings this year i will finish with maybe 3 pair worth breeding from providing the ones i sent to lessay get home tomorrow.My youngbird team is down to 20 after today i started racing with 25 .I did win today and took 3rd and 4th last week but to be hohnest i would forgo the race positions on these early races and rather have the birds home.
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