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if sootjens,i would go to john salt from kimberley,he still has the old stuff,but theres many different strains about now,so i would go for sprinters that suited me and i like the feel of.
val is a top class fancier,gets the best out of them i think aswell,but i always think if you buy pigeons you want as close to the original lines that bred the combine winners and not necessary from the winners themselves,he gets his birds from frank sheader,sheader got them direct from sootjen,you need them has close to the original stuff,then start from there,just like val did.
agree i had one of their y/birds off them(stray) and it won several cards for me ,including 9th fed with birdage of over 4-5000 birds.2nd best hen ive ever owned for consistancy.
could try something different ? seperate yourself from the crowd ! bit of creativity makes it realy interesting ie; for 200 miles how about 75% meulemans 25% jan aarden ? any other suggestions out there .......ray
Ray gerrard schellephorst crossed the vanden bosch with jan aarden and van wonroy has you know,and look what damage they did in this country when they first started to come over,i love the vanden bosch birds and janssens,has well has yours.
Ray gerrard schellephorst crossed the vanden bosch with jan aarden and van wonroy has you know,and look what damage they did in this country when they first started to come over,i love the vanden bosch birds and janssens,has well has yours.
Les
A friend has just brought 30 in from Schellephorst a fortnight ago, they are absolute stunners.
Most families should win sprint races, with just a few exceptions. Sprint racing success is mainly down to preparation!
diagree with u a lot i spent a good few bob on two familles of birds before i had the family that i have now i put a major amount of work into both of them these were well known respeced sprint based birds yes i won a few races but noting like im doing now and i went staight too the source for them birds they were good birds but wouldent have a hope of holding into what i have now same loft same feed the lot so the birds is what counts no mater what the distance ok they have to be done right yes but i reckon im even putting less work in now to get better results just what i have found u see im living 30 mile out of the way to be in the right positon have been in the top 5 in fed when no one in my area in top 50
agree i had one of their y/birds off them(stray) and it won several cards for me ,including 9th fed with birdage of over 4-5000 birds.2nd best hen ive ever owned for consistancy.
got to know charlie wooff and family [all pigeon mad ] very well ,,about 40years ago ,,also through reporting a stray ,,,, he sent two birds up the following year , one bred out of his brothers car winner " bonnie blue" the other from his lerwick winner,,[imagine giving birds like this to me ],,,in one race,,ist and 2cnd FED ,,,nearly 6,000 birds [but after staying with him for a week aquired some of his management, ways ,,,,,,,,never to be forgotten ,,,,fantastic flier in over over 60 years of flying,,,still topping the fed regular and still keeping in touch regular
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] very well ,,about 40years ago ,,also through reporting a stray ,,,, he sent two birds up the following year , one bred out of his brothers car winner " bonnie blue" the other from his lerwick winner,,[imagine giving birds like this to me 
