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hi wot is best for putting on the floor of my loft when i get birds in... sawdust or sand??
and wot sort of trap as ive got bolt wires but read about open doors wat you all recon as im new to the sport only held my first pigeon yesterday so im starting to get the basics all help welcome thanks

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hi wot is best for putting on the floor of my loft when i get birds in... sawdust or sand??
and wot sort of trap as ive got bolt wires but read about open doors wat you all recon as im new to the sport only held my first pigeon yesterday so im starting to get the basics all help welcome thanks

If you use sand it has to be dry, you can get kiln dried cheapest from Jewson or other builders merchants, do not use sawdust as it is too fine and will be blown about easily and harbours dampness as well, use shavings or coarser, easybed is a product you can buy or even wood chippings or bark
We are going to try loft granuals for the first time as it seemed to work really well in Rembrants lofts

thanks dovescot i think i will use sand thanks again 4 info all the ppl ive spoke to on here are very kind and helpfull thanks all

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thanks dovescot i think i will use sand thanks again 4 info all the ppl ive spoke to on here are very kind and helpfull thanks all

There is a product we use called Stallosan F on top of anything we use
http://www.regencypoultry.com/shoparea.asp?p=af4a39a9-c38f-43c7-8085-d147b3616a20

thanks again iread a few books at th we and one said they put garden lime with the sand is that the same sort of stuff should i use lime or not thanks das

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thanks again iread a few books at th we and one said they put garden lime with the sand is that the same sort of stuff should i use lime or not thanks das

I wouldn't put powered lime on the floor with sand, only a lime wash while cleaning the loft and then let it dry

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thanks again iread a few books at th we and one said they put garden lime with the sand is that the same sort of stuff should i use lime or not thanks das

no offence mate but they must be very old books,every one has his/hers idea but birchwood chipping are great ,last forever

The best thing for the floor is the scraper use it once aday.

There is a lime in common use for loft floors and perches, Colombine sell it as 'parquet blanc' = floor white. It is good for keeping the loft fresh and free of pigeon smells, and being white, makes the place look really clean too. Use it sparingly daily after scraping out, brush it in as it tends to blow about..

Ordinary garden or agricultural lime does the same job at a fraction of the cost, and can be mixed with your sand too.

We have just started using loft granuals, Chickadee is not impressed, she is going back to scraping every day

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We have just started using loft granuals, Chickadee is not impressed, she is going back to scraping every day

Well yi told me thats what yi keep her for scrapping out the lofts  

cat litter it drys nicely

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Well yi told me thats what yi keep her for scrapping out the lofts  

Sammy, I couldnae cope if she went on strike, so I have to watch what I am saying, I offered to help the day but she says I make too much noise in the loft.
What gave her that idea  

can use floor grills made from wood or can have a wiremesh floor with tray underneath or can use a scrapper twice a day or use deeplitter , most fanciers are using easybed , but i like hempcore , as for lime on floor i think your refering to columbine bianco floor white mainly used for show lofts. As for traps i suggest you get one where young birds can see out of a cage you can build or buy, these are known as sputniks

Tell you what makes me laugh, all these new starters find these chat sites. Took me ages to find out about them. So where in Cambridge are you NEWBOY, maybe able to get someone round to help you, which club are you in or intend to join

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Sammy, I couldnae cope if she went on strike, so I have to watch what I am saying, I offered to help the day but she says I make too much noise in the loft.
What gave her that idea  

thats her just being a women dunc best leave her to it

Spot on Sammy, her lofts, her birds, my money

which company make the granules for pigeonlofts? that are mentioned above and are they costly

I swear by Hemcore under my grills and in the stock loft - I am going to use hemcore on the floors next season for young birds rather than grills (experiment)

been using it in al my lofts i wont be changing any day soon much easier  

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been using it in al my lofts i wont be changing any day soon much easier  

It is good stuff thats for sure - I found a place local at £10 a bale also which is nearly £4 cheaper than the nearest 'Pigeon supplies'

One bale has done my main 32ft loft under the grills and im sure there is enough there to do the 16ft loft if i decide to keep it.

Wheere is the place you get the hemcore from

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Wheere is the place you get the hemcore from

When you come over i will take you there if you want its dead inbetween mine and Steve Stokers

Thanks mate. I wondered if you would know who it was. I want to change user name on here to the same as I use on other sites but dont know how to do it

ask Webmaster when hes on he'll sort it out for you

im only paying £8.60 a bail i think  ( dont let them know its cheap lol )

Thanks

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im only paying £8.60 a bail i think  ( dont let them know its cheap lol )

I looked at becoming the agent for it locally i still might do yet as the actual cost involved buying bulk is peanuts compared to even what you are paying there is a very high mark up on it

i bet theres a high mark up on it its about £2 dearer than easibed , but worth the extra

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I looked at becoming the agent for it locally i still might do yet as the actual cost involved buying bulk is peanuts compared to even what you are paying there is a very high mark up on it

Would be good if you did, let me know, could be interested myself

how long does it last?
i was told that a true working deep litter never needs to be changed by a old fancier some years ago, he aid it takes a good while for the dropping to be brokern down but when it works correctly it prevents cocci etc
any no if he was correct

The Hemcore i have down in the stock loft (without grills) has been down for nearly 12 months and is in excellent clean condition.

I just took it from under the grills after 15 months also in good nick.

With regard to Deep Litter in general i know Geoff Clare had his deep litter down in his stock loft for at least 8 years up to him moving and if he hadnt moved it would still be there now!

His stock loft never ailed

i dont know at preventing anything , but i suppose they'll become more immune to infections by having it in , deep litter if looked after will last alot of time if you keep turning it over and sprinkling stalosan f or loft white on it every now and again to keep it smelling sweet as long as its dry you wont get smell , i always thought deep litter was for lazy people but it does keep my birds in good nick with clean feet so i can see the benifit for both fancier and pigeon

yes same as i was told
thanks