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right here goes just built a little stock loft to house six pair
were would be the best place  to buy some birds
i fly from 60-450miles
so lookimg for alrounders

Best fancier local to yourself and ask him if they will sell you some latebreds from there stock and top racers.

i dont think they would sell them to someone who will be flying agaisnt them
who did you buy ur birds off was it a good ancier next to you

Quoted from frank1

i dont think they would sell them to someone who will be flying agaisnt them
who did you buy ur birds off was it a good ancier next to you

It would have been but i managed to go direct to the source he got his from so instead of son and daughters of his best i had brother and sister.

go out of youer area     my choice mike val crooks  one of the fancys exelent peaple soojonsflor engle  results speak for themselfs

were is he from how do you contact hi m8

staithes cumbria will look in my breeding book now

i had four pairs and am very happy   tel01947 840079 if you contact give him my regards

is it 5 or 6 up north combine wins with massive birdage

Quoted from ChrisMaidment08

staithes cumbria will look in my breeding book now

North Yorkshire - about 10 miles north of Whitby

but go direct to Frank Sheader (Scarborough) - as thats where they got theirs from - and who owns their combine winners

Quoted from frank1

right here goes just built a little stock loft to house six pair
were would be the best place  to buy some birds
i fly from 60-450miles
so lookimg for alrounders

Your heading says Best birds for Stock so to me buying latebreds or youngsters is a waste of time and could set you back a few years,personally I think that this is a difficult area in our sport because it  is very hard to buy birds that will breed you winners from the start,and what fancier in their right mind will sell you birds that are breeding them winners and really that is what you want in your stock birds,even as some say buy pigeons that have done well racing but I,m sure there are many on here that have had a good racer but never been any good as a stock bird,the only sure way i think is to go to entire clearance sales and look through the birds and select the ones that were breeding them their winners at least then you know that they have bred winners before,they may cost you a bit but at least your not wasting money on birds that havn,t bred anything.

Quoted from PIGEON_MAN

Your heading says Best birds for Stock so to me buying latebreds or youngsters is a waste of time and could set you back a few years,personally I think that this is a difficult area in our sport because it  is very hard to buy birds that will breed you winners from the start,and what fancier in their right mind will sell you birds that are breeding them winners and really that is what you want in your stock birds,even as some say buy pigeons that have done well racing but I,m sure there are many on here that have had a good racer but never been any good as a stock bird,the only sure way i think is to go to entire clearance sales and look through the birds and select the ones that were breeding them their winners at least then you know that they have bred winners before,they may cost you a bit but at least your not wasting money on birds that havn,t bred anything.

i would go along with this post, really good stock birds are hard to come by, sometimes you can hit it off buying proven winning racers , but that's by no means certain , i think the best way is [as above] is to buy at a clearance sale, birds that have already bred winners  , and if possible the actual pair, it would work out cheaper this way , even allthough you have to pay a fair price , even one pair of proven,really good stock birds,are ,,gold

i would not go with that all my best stock birds have been late breeds some real minters if you can pick them you have a chance most flyers dont want to keep the late breeds and you have a lot better chance of getting well breed birds clearance sales are fine but you never know who as been there and had there pick b4 the sale id go for late breeds all the time

frank shreaders  a top breeder you wont go wrong there top birds....

Quoted from gangster

frank shreaders  a top breeder you wont go wrong there top birds....

them german distance birds he as look the part

Entire clearance sales is a good idea,
look for the sire and dam of winners,
or look for summer youngsters, and then you could have fly out stock

frank1
now this might sound crazy ,but i would ask a genuine fancier if he could loan you some birds to improve your team ,dont always look at his best birds for success ,most fanciers every year cull young birds at end of the season ,look at it this way if they where good enough for his young bird team ,they could be good enough to breed from .im sure any genuine fancier with good birds would do this and wouldnt be thinking of how much he could charge you .ask him how he would pair them dont ask for a pedigree .ask as much advise as possible from him .tell him you want to make a family out of his birds to be as good as his .if possible ask to swap six youngsters with him .

entire clearance sales many fools can be parted with monies for something that might be not what they seem to be .ive seen plenty of these sales where the super breeders go for thousands and always seem to be purchased by friends of the seller ..how many times have fanciers cleared out to restart after three years ,but in the three years you dont see much success with the birds sold in the clearance sale .

yes a genuine fancier packing up could bring in the jewels at a clearance sale ,but be careful as many of these so called sales people are selling off cracking bits of paper for big monies and laughting all the way to the bank ,whilst the buyers dreams of success go in the bin .and its never the expensive  birds fault it never turned out winners out you purchased.

Go to a good consistent flyer,making sure his lines are working well for others,purchase latebreds off his best, at 25/30/£ ,ask questions,listen to him/her,keep fingers crossed,how many have paid big bucks for birds from fanciers,realizing too late,a lot of his success was down to his ability,and not his birds.

When you go to a top flyer, buy the birds that breed the winners or if not pssible then buy their children, that will then be brothers and sisters to the winners. Not always the top flyers that breed winners either, i know a few that have the stock but don't know how to race them, but would i buy some off them, you bet!

BTW where are you Frank?