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Greig the doo Drysdale
April 24, 2008, 7:25pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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At what distance would you put your 500milers into the racing basket before a 500mile race
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would that be to start with,or last race before the 500 mile race ?
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would that be to start with,or last race before the 500 mile race ?


If its  the race before 500miles it would be cheltenham this year 274 miles.
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250 -280mls probably fortnight before
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For the more experienced birds it will be appleby first race 3rd may 95 miles,most of the yearlings will start this sat at lowther castle 89 miles althought i would have rather started them at appleby as well. last race before channel races up to 560 miles will be cheltenham.
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mine go every week
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For the more experienced birds it will be appleby first race 3rd may 95 miles,most of the yearlings will start this sat at lowther castle 89 miles althought i would have rather started them at appleby as well. last race before channel races up to 560 miles will be cheltenham.


is it 95 miles then every race after that
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At what distance would you put your 500milers into the racing basket before a 500mile race


Depending on the weather on the day, 6 to 8 hrs etc & that  = a 250 to 350 miles race & then 3 to 4 weeks rest, then into the 500 mile race, & if they are any good ??????? they should be knocking on the door or there abouts, in my view.
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Depending on the weather on the day, 6 to 8 hrs etc & that  = a 250 to 350 miles race & then 3 to 4 weeks rest, then into the 500 mile race, & if they are any good ??????? they should be knocking on the door or there abouts, in my view.
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Yeah want look at them having about 8hr fly then leave them maybe bit of training the week before thats where knowing your birds and what they need comes into it
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mine go every week


We know that Carlsberg   "PMSL" but how many ???????? are left at the finish   to fight another day at the distance, for the following year.
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No not every race but some will have cheltenham and some worcester and then we will see
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Carlsberg if you think you can send distance birds every race you have got a lot to learn
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was thinking of sending channel birds 105 miles then miss a week send to about 180 miss 2 weeks then send to maidstone then over to falaise do you think it will work will also try same thing with the Ypres race aswell
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How far is maidstone and falaise for you
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maidstone 360 Falaise about 475 if I can mind right maybe slightly more
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was thinking of sending channel birds 105 miles then miss a week send to about 180 miss 2 weeks then send to maidstone then over to falaise do you think it will work will also try same thing with the Ypres race aswell


when is maidstone in relation to falaise and ypres and how far is maidston to you
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about 2 or 3 weeks apart
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about 2 or 3 weeks apart


I think if you have a hard maidston your up against it,would rather have a hard 250 miles four weeks before big race,but thats just my opinion.
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Bit further than i would have gone if it is only 2 weeks before I think they really need a race about 2 weeks before but it is one time that you really want a decent race last thing you need is a bad race getting the right distance wise race those couple of weeks before isnt always the easiest of things to find you just got hope it works out a nice steady race for them
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mine go everyweek but not channel birds














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All depends on birds and hours on wing I feel.  Some birds just thrive on work, my best ever bird at 500 mile had 12 races in 13 weeks prior to 500 miler and came on day in toughish race following season would of been same but missed 3 races as hit wires came on day 14 and half hours on tough race.  I like mine to have 80 miler prior to basketing(5 days) then leave alone just loft exercise.  Prior to this at least a 350 mile race, and couple at 250/300.  This would all depend on wind and race.  If one of these was stinker then no need but if both quick and birds home in 5 hours be worried and get more time on wing.  That short race before 500 race I like to be 2 to 3 hours on wing.
Know some birds can have very little racing and be jumped in these fanciers know family they have that is the long term aim to have 500 mile family.  Thats if allowed to race the 500 mile races
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All depends on birds and hours on wing I feel.  Some birds just thrive on work, my best ever bird at 500 mile had 12 races in 13 weeks prior to 500 miler and came on day in toughish race following season would of been same but missed 3 races as hit wires came on day 14 and half hours on tough race.  I like mine to have 80 miler prior to basketing(5 days) then leave alone just loft exercise.  Prior to this at least a 350 mile race, and couple at 250/300.  This would all depend on wind and race.  If one of these was stinker then no need but if both quick and birds home in 5 hours be worried and get more time on wing.  That short race before 500 race I like to be 2 to 3 hours on wing.
Know some birds can have very little racing and be jumped in these fanciers know family they have that is the long term aim to have 500 mile family.  Thats if allowed to race the 500 mile races


Think you are right what you are saying lot depends on birds you have got some need more work than others if you got a family of birds you know what work suits them  ours go straight into 250ml races and dont need a lot of work
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We know that Carlsberg   "PMSL" but how many ???????? are left at the finish   to fight another day at the distance, for the following year.
Enjoy.



4/4 at 512 miles , 1st bird had 12/14 races always in the clock
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maybe theres allways exception to the rule , but by giving a distance bird every race this would just make the bird" home " and not really race to win
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At what distance would you put your 500milers into the racing basket before a 500mile race


hours on the wing more important than the distance,, but ideally, a good testing 8 hour fly 3 weeks b4 race sould really suffice , maybe with a few tosses nearer the time , all depending on the bird itself, all are individuals , but i would be quite happy to send an experienced bird about 3 or 4 races then into a 550 mile race  [all would depend on circumstances at the time ]
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some very good reading in this tread thanks for sharing your thoughts  


a rolling stone gathers no moss
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Quoted from carlsberg


4/4 at 512 miles , 1st bird had 12/14 races always in the clock


Good man !!!!!!!!   you just keep it up now   in the near future, all your mates will just love you ??????? & your opposition will be over the moon   with sheer enjoyment.
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Just a thought in relation to what Lennut posted,I find more often not there is more genuine respect and admiration among competing fanciers when you produce a bird to perfom at the distance,rather than a bird that does the job in a land race,is it I wonder although much fewer competitors,they are more genuine fanciers,again just my opinion,my own system would be depending on bird race out to approx 250,nest condition,with two or three 80 mile single ups,previous to basketing week.
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During close season had been looking at channel competition. I know the end bit that I want [as per previous advice given by forum members]:

(1) 2 yo - Newbury 330 miles, 8-9 hours, 3 weeks rest, then Alencon 560 miles. I was on track for that 2 years ago [Maidstone / Falaise] 'panicked' and took the hen on a 100 mile single-up trainer on the Saturday before Wednesday basketing, and she got hawked. Never again.

(2) Yearling - Eastbourne, 404 miles, 9-10 hours, rest, then Ypres 450? miles.

I have a problem though - I need to split the 2-yo for 2-3 weeks in May to set them down for Newbury and sitting a 7 day old youngster at Alencon basketing - as per previous nest advice given by forum members. I'm starting them this weekend at 82 miles, and expect them to rise when they return. After splitting, should I continue to train or race the birds until I pair them up again? Newbury is on 6th June.

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