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Vic
April 10, 2008, 7:25pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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What's your preferences regarding widowhood cocks having a bath?  I prefer Thursday afternoons this time of year, moving onto Fridays when it gets warmer.
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chichichi
April 10, 2008, 7:34pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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our widowers either get dipped or have a bath on sunday after the racing,, they don't go out but do enjoy a day off..

goodluck all for the weekend

ant


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swilcox
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Took some advice off Richard Green of Crowley and Green this year, he has given his birds a warm bath midweek before the big races and said they really benifit from it.

Stuart
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chichichi
April 10, 2008, 7:45pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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know someone who dips their birds on friday morning before the race,,,

when we dip them they have a very warm bucket full of water dip then upto their head,, keep them in it for about 1 min,, they love it,, just put them back on their box after,,

lol..

have a good one

ant


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Tony C
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I see the bath as a tool, a warm bath for two things a cold bath for three others.


Brits ahoy

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Vic
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Some guys in these quarters do actually use, not warm, but fairly hot water, for the dip, and swear by it. The guy from the Sheffield, area. (I can't think of his name,) states in his video, that the later his birds take a bath on marking day, the better chance he has of topping the fed. So there we go! Everybody to there own methods.
But it definitely is an advantage if applied at the right time.   
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Quoted from Vic
Some guys in these quarters do actually use, not warm, but fairly hot water, for the dip, and swear by it. The guy from the Sheffield, area. (I can't think of his name,) states in his video, that the later his birds take a bath on marking day, the better chance he has of topping the fed. So there we go! Everybody to there own methods.
But it definitely is an advantage if applied at the right time.   


that would be dave allen but cant think of the video it was on
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Vic
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Quoted from carlsberg


that would be dave allen but cant think of the video it was on


Yes Dave Allen it was! for what is name is worth. I pefer to remember the more intricate details of videos, the vital info!  in other words.
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Vic
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Quoted from swilcox
Took some advice off Richard Green of Crowley and Green this year, he has given his birds a warm bath midweek before the big races and said they really benifit from it.

Stuart


Midweek? Wouldn't that not be on marking day for the Clasics?
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jimmy white
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in the good weather the f.d in the morning makes the w hood cocks rest better all day frid       all in club used to wonder what this f,d was ,,had them all guessing  
Friday Dip  in hot water ,,certainly did mine no harm    [remember ,pigeons temperature about 6 deg higher than ours,,,,,,maybe not on race days though ]
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Vic
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Jimmy , Nice for a "somebody"  in my estimation to reveal a trick or two. without cards being involved. But they follow suit at the end of the day dont they?  I cant sleep tonight, because I.m too excited!   (Two days before Kick off)
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jimmy white
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  good lad vic
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Ronnie
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gonna try this ,this week lads.I will be basketing to take to club at 18:30 so what time would be best to give the a dip?
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Quoted from Vic
Jimmy , Nice for a "somebody"  in my estimation to reveal a trick or two. without cards being involved. But they follow suit at the end of the day dont they?  I cant sleep tonight, because I.m too excited!   (Two days before Kick off)


Hell Vic you sound just like a sprinter lol
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superstar
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Only bath cocks on a sunday morning, open loft to please themselves while sections are sprayed out and left to dry.
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All race team have access to a bath every Sunday morning. However will be interested in the feedback from those that are trying the Friday prebasketing bath method.


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billy wilson
May 7, 2008, 1:28pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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dean pallet always let his birds bath on friday didnt do his any harm  

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mine have bath every sunday as the race programme goes on when home early give em bath sat afternoon
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sapper756
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Well did anyone try this method this weekend, and if so how did you do?


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I tryed it didnt make much difference , I was still at the bottom end of the top ten but that could just be down me still learning the ropes.
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jimmy white
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i think the bath for w,hood cocks friday am ,,,,,makes them settle in the loft all day without getting stressed
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THE BATH


PIGEONS SHOULD BE BATHED AT LEAST ONCE PER WEEK IN ORDER SO THEY CAN REMAIN IN TOP CONDITION, BUT THERES ONLY A FEW THAT KNOW HOW TO USE THE BATHING OF PIGEONS TO INCREASE FITNESS.

BATHING HAS AN EFFECT ON THE FEATHERING; IT BREAKS UP THE OLD OIL THAT PROTECTS THE BIRDS FROM THE WEATHER. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THIS COMES ABOUT BY CHANGING SKIN TEMPRETURE, WHICH SEEMS TO CAUSE A HUMIDIFIEING EFFECT BETWEEN THE FEATHERS. HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT ONCE YOUR PIGEONS HAVE TAKEN A BATH THEY WILL PREEN THEM SELVES, CAREFULLY EXTRACTING OIL FROM THE OIL GLAND AT THE BASE OF THE TAIL AND APPLYING IT TO OTHER FEATHERS. AT THIS TIME YOU WOULD FIND IT HARDER TO WET A PIGEON AFTER IT HAD TAKEN A BATH THAN A WEEK PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THE OIL ON THE FEATHERS IS VERY FRESH.

THIS IS WHY IF YOU HAVE SOME TIMES NOTICED WHEN YOU SEND THE BIRDS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY INCOUNTER A LOT OF RAIN YOU DON’T SEE THEM AGAIN. BECAUSE THEY CANNOT FLY WHEN THEY ARE SOAKED WITH RAIN THEY KEEP GOING LOWER AND LOWER FROM THE WEIGHT AND EVENTUALLY DROWN. IT’S SAD, BUT IT’S TRUE. JUST BY BATHING THE BIRD YOU CAN ENSURE THAT THE BIRDS PERFORMACE WILL IMPROVE, AS THEY WILL BE BASICALLY WATER PROOF, AS WELL AS MORE BOYANT IN FLIGHT. BUT ITS WHEN TO ADMINISTER THE BATH AND WHEVER IT’S A HOT OR A COLD BATH, EACH BATH IS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF RACES.

NOW IT’S A FACT THAT BATHING A PIGEON WILL KEEP THE MOULT CONTSTANT. ONCE A BIRD HAS A BATH, WITHIN 24 HOURS ONE WILL EXPERIENCE A DOWN MOULT AMONG FIT PIGEONS. MOST TOP FLIERS ACTUALLY BATHE THEIR YOUNG BIRDS ABOUT TWO OR THREE HOURS BEFORE BASKETING AS THIS WILL OFTEN LEAD TO A FLIGHT DROP AND IN TURN BRING THE YOUNG BIRD INTO FORM.

ANOTHER USE FOR A BATH IS THE FORCED BATH OF WIDOWERS ON THERE RETURN FROM RACING. THERE A MANY TOP WIDOWERS THAT USE THIS METHOD, BECAUSE IF ONE GIVES THE WIDOWERS A FORCED BATH ON THEIR RETURN FROM A RACE IT HAS THE EFFECT OF CALMING THE BIRDS DOWN AND IS SO EFFECTIVE THAT MANY TOP FLIERS BELIEVE THEY OWE MUCH OF THEIR SUCCESS TO THIS OPERATION. THE WAY FORCED BATHING IS DONE IS FILL A BUCKET WITH WARM WATER. AFTER THE WIDOWER HAS DESIGNATED TIME WITH THE WIDDOWER HEN AND SHE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE LOFT HOLD THE WIDOWER IN THE NORMAL WAY PLACING HIS BODY IN THE BUCKET OF WARM WATER WITH HIS HEAD COMFORTABLE OUT OF THE WATER FOR ONE MINUTE THEN CAREFULLY PLACE HIM BACK INTO HIS BOX. WHEN YOU ARE SPRINTING WIDOWERS FROM WEEK TO WEEK THIS CALMING EFFECT SEEMS TO ENSURE GRATER FITNESS FOR THE NEXT RACE. THESE WIDOWERS ARE RESTING FAR EASIER THAN UNBATHED ONES WHICH SEEMS TO TAKE AT LEAST TWO MORE DAYS TO SETTLE DOWN AGAIN.

THE THIRD USE OF A BATH IS PRE-BATHING WIDOWERS BEFORE THE RACE. THIS METHOD IS ESPECIALLY GOOD FOR LONG DISTANCE RACING AND IS SOMETHING I HAVE ALWAYS CONSIDERED TO BE ONE OF MY GRATIST SECRETS. WHEN A WIDOWER IS GOIN TO BE ENTERED INTO A LONG DISTANCE RACE, HE SHOULD NOT BE RACED OR BATHED THE WEEK BEFORE. MAKING IT AT LEAST TWO WEEKS BETWEEN RACES. THEN AROUND TWO TO THREE HOURS BEFORE BASKETING, NORMALLY AROUND LUNCH TIME, WHEN THE WEATHER IS AT ITS WARMIST, GIVE THE BIRDS A COLD BATH. YOU MUST BE SURE ITS TAP WATER ABOUT 20 C, DON’T GIVE A WARM BATH AS THIS WILL QUITEN THE BIRDS TO MUCH.


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Vic
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Valiant, Well put, But seing that the distance is upon us. I will revert back to the Sunday job. lol.
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