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ive tried the baby milk powder, reared up cracking yb,s |
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now i use garlic twice a week johnsons tonic once a week fresh water the rest of the week
& started to put a table spoon of honey in a 2 LTR bottle of water also once a week in the breeding section, |
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Was toying with honey & garlic in the drinking water on race days.
See you're using honey, Snowy, wondered if you had any preference on type?
Had clocked-onto the clear, golden-coloured variety, but haven't checked out whats available yet. Any comments on best / best use, folks? |
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I was giving honey on race days didnt notice any diffrence though |
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bruno, yes read a bit on honey on a few sites, say it gives them more energy which you should notice the following day, so i would give the day before a race, and generally good for them, im using the natural honey with nothing added whats so ever, its not exactly clear, but not as cloudy as some, its more clearer at the top, its supposed to be straight from the comb |
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| February 9, 2006, 10:16pm |
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Put honey in with my garlic & cider vinegar before they go and when they come back from race |
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| February 10, 2006, 8:00am |
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Quoted from Rose
Put honey in with my garlic & cider vinegar before they go and when they come back from race
Hi rose just wondering what day do you give them honey/garlic and cider vinegar before they go to race. last year i added honey and sea salt to the drinkers on return of the birds but never noticed any change,this year i with stick with electrolights |
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| February 10, 2006, 8:17am |
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Hi Carl if they are being basketed say on the Friday they will have it from the Thursday morning |
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| February 10, 2006, 10:43am |
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I THINK HONEY IS LIKE CLUECOSE IT'S AN INSTANT GIVEN ENERGY, SO WOULD PROBABLY BE GONE BY THE TIME THE BIRDS REQUIRE IT, I REMEMBER WE USED TO GET A HANDFULL OF GLUECOSE TO TAKE IN THE MARINES BEFORE STARTING A ROUTE MARCH, ALSO MARATHON RUNNERS TAKE IT AT THE START OF A RACE, AS ITS AN INSTANT SOURSE OF ENERGY, |
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| February 10, 2006, 10:39pm |
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honey is supposed to be an energy fix, but more like a banana than glucose, as bananas let the energy out slowly , unlike the glucose, which is short termed.(quick fix) hope you know what i mean(lol)  |
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| February 11, 2006, 8:37am |
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I put a spoonfull of black strap molasses in the water on wednesday and thursday and clear water on the Friday.  |
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| February 11, 2006, 7:35pm |
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I put a spoonfull of black strap molasses in the water 
Molasses I think could mean different things to different people from a tar / distilling by-product to a sugar refining by-product. Wondered if you wouldn't mind confirming what yours is and why you give it, Pigeonchested? |
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| February 11, 2006, 7:44pm |
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I THINK HONEY IS LIKE CLUECOSE IT'S AN INSTANT GIVEN ENERGY, SO WOULD PROBABLY BE GONE BY THE TIME THE BIRDS REQUIRE IT, I REMEMBER WE USED TO GET A HANDFULL OF GLUECOSE TO TAKE IN THE MARINES BEFORE STARTING A ROUTE MARCH, ALSO MARATHON RUNNERS TAKE IT AT THE START OF A RACE, AS ITS AN INSTANT SOURSE OF ENERGY,
My original aim was a glucose 'instant lift' when the bird arrived home. Rose's post on pre-race use has me wondering, as has yours. Agree about the burst of energy and that its short lived, but wondered how it would be used up in the basket? Surely as there's no exercise, its not being used? Could it become a little reserve the bird has stored-up for use in the early part of the race? |
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| February 11, 2006, 8:04pm |
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I also use honey in the (warm water). Place it in the loft 1 hour before pigeons arrive. If they do arrive on time. |
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| February 11, 2006, 8:42pm |
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I get my molasses from my local health shop for less than two pounds and it lasts me a whole season. I read years ago that a highly successful partnership used it and it was a great energy source it has certainaly done my birds no harm. |
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some pepole us a tea, do u use it and is it affective and what do you use in it and what does it do. |
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some fanciers use pigeon tea and use it the day after the race, it contains herbs which are thought to cleans the birds of toxins[as toxins can build up after hard fly]they also contain herbs to relax them, thats just basic westy but hope it helps  |
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You can get Milton at any Supermarket and Boots the Chemist |
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Garlic & cider vinegar during the week and honey on a saturday after the race. |
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First point - Avoid the misuse of antiobitics! You are on a downward spiral after this!
Two cheap/natural products i use frequently -
During Moulting - Naturaline - Excellent product although it does make the droppings a bit loose. After Antibiotic treatment - Sedochol - Flushes the liver.. I've also found it stimulates the falling of down during the race season. |
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