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hi i JUST WANTED TO KNOW PEOPLES IDEAS ON BREEDING INBREEDING LINEBREEDING OR JUST SIMPLELY BEST TO BEST THANKS

best racers to pair.

Tubs
first you have got fine out your best breeders and thay are not always the best racers then linebred

Also planet brothers sold up two years ago

I breed best to best then I breed the winning children from them back to grandparents I stock then breed these the children that win from these are bred back to great grand parents and grandparents then I cross these inbreds out with another inbred from another line I fly crosses and breed inbreds if you can fly the inbreds and win with those and then breed them thats how you get super pigeons

i put the winner to winner but i only race my hens as young birds so i put the hens of the best birds to the best racers

agree with heathcote, linebreeding much easier than inbreeding as it will take you a few generations of breeding to be able to say that the family is inbred and your selection criterea for offspring doesnt have to be so severe

best to best, to suit distance or sprint

BEST TO BEST MAY BE FOR DISTANCE BUT NOT FOR SPRINT IF IT WAS THAT EASY WE WOULD ALL HAVE A LOFT FULL OF WINNERS THE BEST BREDING HEN I EVER HAD NEVER MADE IT ON THE DAY AS YOUNG BIRD

i never said it was that easy, but out of a difficult job, ive found it the best way,,,eventually

I HAVE ALLWAYS COME DOWN WITH TWO LINES  CROSS THEM AND THEN CROSS THEM AGAIN

Still struggling with a lot of the breeding stuff.

Understood inbreeding reduces the vigour needed for racing; while a cross increases vigour and therefore a better chance of breeding a good racebird.  Seems this isn't always the case though, from members' experiences posted elsewhere, with seriously inbred birds turning out to be very good racers.

One rule I intend to follow in 2006 though: My breeders are for breeding race birds, and my unproven race birds are for racing. Means a lot less youngsters next year, but hopefully raises the teams' overall quality.

Now if I could only lay my hands on a quality loft manager.......  

BRUNO
IF YOU STOCK HAVE A STOCK WITH BIRDS FLYING OUT OR NOT YOU SEEM TO BRED MORE WINNERS OUT OF YOUR RACE LOFT WHEN YOU BRED WITH THEM, EVEN THOUGH THAY ARE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OFF THE STOCK BIRDS ,BUT I DO NOT KNOW WAY IT MAY  BE THE AGE

Reckon the 'numbers game' is at play there, Heathcote. There are more race birds than breeders, chance favours bigger numbers: so chance 'might' favour a good racer coming from the race team. Also heard the tale of 'yearling racers' being a good bet to throw something - same principle, yearlings are usually biggest group in the loft.

For example I have 32 birds; 8 stock and 24 racers - 16 are yearlings. So on pure numbers I have a 3:1 chance of breeding something out of the racers... a 2:1 chance of breeding something out of the yearlings;  and a 1:4 chance of breeding something out of the breeders....

More chance of me becoming the King of Scotland methinks  

if u breed from your race team then try just breeding from the sons of your proven breeders and this will increase your chances of breeding pigeons of the same type.

I agree with you Kaybee, in principle.  

But I also think there needs to be some sort of standard and some sort of plan.

On standard, I think a racer needs to be showing consistent performances before it is bred from;

On plan, the birds making these consistent performances are linebred or inbred back into the 'family' that produced them, or crossed into another consistent family.

well their some intresting thoughts thier for me to think about i was talking to my good friend david page and picked his mind on the subject he is an beliver in inbreeding and line breeding but only from proven stock to creat an long line of winners but for me i think i will cross for now till i find that golden goose thanks every one tubs

TUBS
?  DID I NOT SAY THAT IN MY FIRST POST. GO FOR IT AND  GOOD LUUK