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Hofkens
Jos Sootjens

Always thought Van Hee were Middle/long distance Pigeons

Van Hee is in the Spirint of  Louella Lofts's Group Spirint, Linda.

That's as may be Craig I had a couple of Van Hee's in England and sent them over the Brook

VAN HEE ARE NOT IN THE SPIRINT GROUP AT LOUELLA THAY ARE IN THE LONG DISTACE

Quoted from HEATHCOTE

VAN HEE ARE NOT IN THE SPIRINT GROUP AT LOUELLA THAY ARE IN THE LONG DISTACE

Excuse me - Van Hee was in the group Spirint at Louella Lofts,

SPEIGHT EXCUSE ME LOOK AGAIN VAN HEE NOT VERHEYES

 As already stated most if not all sprint pigeons have Janssen Blood in them.

 We are into the van-reets and have had a good fewwinners from them.

  Think that the Sootjens have the Van-Reets blood in them, ???????.

  May be wrong

  RAY

ray ,van reets and soontjens have hofkens blood in them ( geshifte ,Driebander etc )  think staff used a pigeon called grote tom or late tom as a cross ? from soontjen .so we aint far out !

 CHEERS MATE


 RAY

Geschifte (ring number blg 78 6467881), winner of 22x1st prizes, was a full brother to Late Tom ( ring number blg 80 6796080) winner of 3x1st prizes. Both are sons of Tom when paired to a pigeon known as Blauw De Wolfe. Staff Van Reet got six pigeons off Jos Soontjen, one of these youngsters was ring number  blg 85 6723031
which was the sire of Grote Tom, who in turn sired the likes of Favorie (8x1st) and Den Don (10x1st I think).
blg 85 6723031 was a son of Late Tom and Geschelpt Verherstraeten.Geschelpt Verherstraeten was purchased by Soontjen from a club member who didnt fly too good but this pigeon was always on the prize list. This pair became the top pair and are in all the Soontjen pedigrees. Hope this clarifies things.

Van reet as albert irwens pigeons crossed into them

chukpop see web page August hofkens ( Nelles van der pol ) FONDMAN B72.6311131 brother to GESCHIFTE B72.6211120 stafs original HOFKENS HEN BELG 76 6790981 was bred by Gus hofkens from blauwe manneke b75.6234134 son of geschifte ( from driebander and theeuwesduiven  ) This from ref h . of the very first sale list staf had in the u.k i was there bankrupting myself in leeds ( still have the sale lists ) . dont know much about later day van reets ,just the originals......ray

SILVERWINGS
DID THE HOFKEN PIGEON THAT STAF HAD FROM GUS HAVE NELLES VAN DER POL IN IT OR DID STAF PUT IT IN; I HAVE HAD HOFKEN X NELLES VAN DER POL  SINCE THE LATE 1980 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM LET ME KNOW MY BIRDS CAME FROM THE LATE LOUIS VAN HOVE OF MERKSPLAS THE SAME VILLAGE AS GUS           PS THIS IS NOT A ADVERT IT IS JUST FOR REF  

When did Bert and Dave Allen brought Vanreets into the UK ?

the best sprint birds are bred down from a line of the best sprint winners .
van winneranybreeds   mated up with van managements  

speight , i think the first birds direct from staf went to bert hession 1984/5 will check this out for you , first indirect birds in the uk Merlin Hudson

heathcote ,just used nelles van der pol to direct him to the web page re ; the original geschifte pigeon .the one he had mentioned came much later , nelles van der pol founded his loft on birds from hofkens and emile vereheart ,stafs hen 76.6790961 from 75.6234134 son of geschifte and the schone blauwe from the lichte bourges of 64 and the janssen duiven, the dam of 961 was 69.6320035 daughter of the driebander and the theeuwsduiven of 66 according to the sales list he had 961 frm hofkens direct ,

Silverwings, you stated that Van Reets and "SOONTJENS" cary the blood of Hofkens in them. As an example you mentioned Geschifte. Well the Geschifte of Soontjens isnt the Geschifte of Hofkens, so thats what I was clarifying. The rest of my post was giving a little history on the pigeon That Staff had called Grote Tom, which is where Van Reets and Soontjens have a  connection. If I misunderstood your post then accept my appologies. I have seen a Soontjen pigeon with the Driebander in its blood but that come from a cross that Manfred Fossen (Germany) put into it (Vet Bol X something with Driebander in it), Hofkens not what Jos Soontjen put into them as far as I know.

the albert irwins cross into van reets loft is responsible for some of the best birds to fly in this country