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i think we all go over the score in adding,too much to the water i think some birds must wonder what "real" water is nowadays  

true Jimmy

Do you put RedCell in the winter season or Breeding season?.

I only use it before and during training and not so much for races I think it helps with condition and dosent drop birds from stress as bad I think they rebound better after bad tosses again I use sparingly Bruno I think you are right what they dont use goes right on floor and I am sure not all of these products are absorbed or required but I have definatly noticed an increase in overall health since I started doing this

We used Red Cell for racing greyhounds and only after they had raced as it was belived to be better this way.

as for pigeons  i would not use it at all.  cannot give you a detailed reason why
but from others that i know that used it over a few years, found that when they stopped using it there results improved, so that was good enough for me.

But as we have said before if it works for you then why change it.

RAY

Personally I would use a drop of Cod Liver oil on the feed.

I agree with Bruno here, I think all the Snake Oil Salesman have moved to the Pigeon Sport.

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Personally I would use a drop of Cod Liver oil on the feed.

I agree with Bruno here, I think all the Snake Oil Salesman have moved to the Pigeon Sport.

Linda
Do you give cod liver oil on the feed every day? is it better than giving cod oil tablets?

Once a week Craig, you can usually buy liquid from the Pigeon Feed Stores

ok cheers.  

Do you think it's dangerous to give birds, which is Horse products?

If you don't think no harm for birds, but how much do you give them in the water

E.g one tea spoon or something like that, please

ive used red cell for a few years now and find it is best been put on their corn and left for a hour or so as it dries up quickly,i first started putting it in the water but found it gave them watery droppings,but when put on there food they were a lot better and you could tell it worked on them. its a great product and i will always use it.

use just enough to tint the water, A teaspoon to a gallon is almost to strong 1/2 teaspoon would be plenty.we like to use it 2 days before basketing which is 3 days before a release

I use it on the feed before the season starts

hi what is this product used for?

Piggy,

The alfalfa and kelp are specifically for vitamin E and Iodine

The picture of the redcell and more information is on the other topic

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Never used Red Cell but someone once told me it supplies extra oxygen to the blood and is used for horses.
I remember one Saturday afternnoon a light Ch H dropped on my roof and the condition of this pigeon dazzled me.  I have NEVER before then or since, seen a pigeon with so much colour on it's neck. She eventually came in and I contacted the owner asking him how he got his pigeons in such condition.  His reply was MOLLASES, again used for horses and mixed with their feed. I personally took the hen back to him and found his pigeons were all the same.  This guy just added it to the pigeons drinker. Do I use it ? NO !  Pigeon products for pigeons.   Johnsons Pigeon Tonic.!!  But then, I'm a bit old fashioned.

Where can i purchase red cell from as the system i will be flying this year has red cell to be used on a sunday mixed with brewers yeast on the corn

JUST WONDERED OUT OF INTEREST MANY SEEM VERY INTERESTED IN VITAMINS SUPPLEMENTS ETC BUT HOW MANY HAVE CUPBOARDS FULL OF THEM AT HOME FOR THEMSELVES AS WELL AND DO WE ALL PUT AS MUCH EFFORT INTO TRYING TO BE FIT AND HEALTHY AS WE SEEM TO WANT OUR PIGEONS TO BE

Carl,
        Most,  suppliers of horse supplements will have it or will be able to get you it.

Rose is on the right track--people clean their loft once/twice a day--they spend more time cleaning the loft than cleaning their house. They feed the birds a better balanced diet than they eat themselfs.We eat and drink what we want-BUT - we make the birds eat/drink what we think is best for them.Just My Opinion
----I'm talking about myself  also-----

I just wonder why we need all these extras now 30yrs ago when horses where my hobby I dont remember having to give my horse all these things to go out and win any competitions besides the point they werent around to give them just good quality basic feeds whats changed so much over the years that everything whether its birds horses dogs cats and even us need so many extra supplements