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If anyone uses Redcell product,

Do you put Redcell on the food or in the water, what day?

Never heard of it.

LOT of Vitimans in RED CELL which is for Horses but top flyers says allow use for Racing Pigeons too, Shadow.

Most of top flyers says "RED CELL is quite good".

RED CELL PRODUCT.

Shake well before using and don't over do it. I would say 1/2 teaspoon to a gallon would be plenty. Just want to tint the water

FANCIERS.

What else Vitmans do you gives your pigeons on the foods or in the water before race on weekends

I use red cell I put it directly on the food and let it sit about 30 minutes then I put brewers yeast on it and mix the whole thing throughly I give some type of supplement every 3 days starting about 2 weeks before I start training some other products I use -calf manna- recuplex- vita preen- a mixed grit- I dont use any one product consistently but prefer to mix the usage I belive ALL contain too much of too many ingredients but by mixing I limit specific substances from specific sources I belive variety is the key I also feed some alfalfa and kelp on occasion

The alfalfa and kelp are specifically for vitamin E and Iodine

Speight 5ml to 3 pints of water thursday and friday This is a complete race supplement includes masses of vits and minerals including echinacea to enchance red cell production and immune system give me a pm and ill tell you what to add to it on a friday

I use something like red cell,but mine comes from the health shop, called Fermoglobin. Cost £3 .60. its a iron tonic full of vits,  mins ,.inc b12. zinc honey,yeast ect  look for yourself, next time ya visit the health shop ,ya be surprised, what ya can get,at half the price.   Speckled

ive used metatone out the chemist, before, but allways plain water fridays

Well jimmy, have used Metatone, but found fermoglobin, is better.used to use it for race horses , no thats not a tip.Speckled

There sure is a lot of products meant for other animals such as horses being used for pigeons...   Ever heard of hypervitaminosis?    

thats why I mix products

hi craig you would be better off with nutonic,ian snaith could probly fill you in on it.
yours in sport ,jimmy.

Basically don't see much point in giving pigeon products to pigeons, and definitely don't see ANY point in giving non-pigeon products to pigeons.  

Pour vits etc by the gallon - won't make one jot of a difference if the bird can't use it there and then. Anything additional to the bird's normal requirements usually ends up right back on the floor.      

sh** loads of money?  

Would this redcell harm pigeons or not because Red Cell is a supplement for horses.

Speight, stuff for horses is specially formulated to meet the horse's normal bodily needs... which will be entirely different to a pigeon's needs given that one is a mammal like us (and around the same weights too) and the other is a bird weighing between 400/600 grams.

A pigeon is also one of those very high metabolism creatures, which needs to eat 10% of its body weight daily. If you or I ate, or fed the horse that much, we'd all be dead by next week. So there's no similarity between mammals and birds.

I'm sure your birds will be just as healthy without the 'exotic' stuff.  

Quoted from jimmy_bulger

hi craig you would be better off with nutonic,ian snaith could probly fill you in on it.
yours in sport ,jimmy.

Hi Jimmy Bulger,

I'll have a word with Mr Snaith about Nutonic,

How's your Baakuis?

Yours in sport
Speight

Do you anyone uses "BANG ON" from Ronnie Bigwood's products

What do you think Bang On any good to you on your results?