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I was just thinking what u said shadow we could have some funny named birds going round if we all used our surnames

a wee story that youll find hard to beleiveBill  pentland [sadly passed away]says to me Ive a chalenge for you..,transfer, and break this jet black cock, and be able to send it to sartilly 505 miles in21 DAYS, this bird raced for him on widowhood, that particular year, had 5 races,last one being dorchestor 350 miles, bill stayed about 6 miles from me,he sent it this race paired and on eggs,nesting in bottom right hand box, I took the pair the nest pan and the nesting materials, to the same box in my loft, i.e bottom left.i put the pair, eggs nestpan etc in with a board in front of the box, the pair took to the eggs, i moved this board further away , making sure they were still sitting, allthough a bit dubious, i managed to take the board away alltogether, they were still sitting. i then had the cock locked in the sputnick when he should have been sitting, then let him in, i then let him out , and he went back to Bills,to an emty section with the boxes boarded up, i brought him back and repeated this a few times , next day let him out, bill locked him out and chased him , and to my surprise he returned to me, all this in about 5 days after flying freely for about a week ,i gave him a toss from freuchie [north] and again to my surprise he dropped to me, bill was amazed [so was i]i then sent him to sartilly, being less than 21 days in my loft and to our utter amazement ,this bird was 101st national, would have actualy been 89th as they had my old distances. this is hard to beleive but i can assure you it is perfectly true.. this true story struck a cord with roses post above about birds being called after their owners surname, this was a jet black cock ,and would have been called a van white  .p.s. in remembrance to bill pentland ,bill held the record from barcelona, 1000 miles for some time, up here.

I was at a sale on saturday and there was a Van Reet cock that has bred any amount of winners, and is and outstanding looking bird (ive got a YB of it) and it was sold for £4600.

It may have made 34,700 but that does not mean it will breed all winners good pigeons are hard to find. It the same with breeding any type of bird or animal. Costly stock will breed as many duffers as good one's

Totally agree with you, but this one has already bred a dynasty of winners, and not many duffers. PS, where did the 34,700 come from.

Janssen De Klaks

JANSSENS, DE KLAKS, VAN LOONS, MEULEMANS

Sorry shelbin it was a typing error (old age )

Busschaerts is a old family must be longest years to have the busschaerts in the last 30 years?

Yes that's very true Rose.

can i just say it is no wonder most fanciers on the continent laugh at us!!! and send thier birds over here to be sold!!

Slugmonkey

Do you know any one in the U.S or Canada flew well with Thone birds ?

jansseins for the sprint to middle distance and janaardens for long to extreme distance

thts suppose to say janssens

Our birds been doing it for a lot longer than 30yrs and there still doing it now for us only bird they got in them thats in the poll is a little bit of kirpatrick

yes speed bird i also have the karl hremans aswell as janssens,i think the hermans are the best thing yorkshire has seen,also i know of many top herman flyers who have got the van reets to try against their hermans and their hermans have still dominated the van reets.i have some of ward bros old stuff and they are very fast birds.

If we're talking about the test of time here, for me, it HAS to be Busschaerts.

best pigeons in uk?...............mine!
I just love delbars , best birds i've ever had!

delbars are great pigeons as they are good allrounders,a friend use to have some,think he got them from louella at the time but won on the first race also won 500mls with them aswell,agree with t.t on the busschearts aswell but they were not a pure breed like the janssens as george busscheart got the fastest pigeons he could at the time and fetched them back to england with him as belguims specialised in sprint races at the time but we didnt.

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delbars are great pigeons as they are good allrounders,a friend use to have some,think he got them from louella at the time but won on the first race also won 500mls with them aswell,agree with t.t on the busschearts aswell but they were not a pure breed like the janssens as george busscheart got the fastest pigeons he could at the time and fetched them back to england with him as belguims specialised in sprint races at the time but we didnt.

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I dont think ther are any ( Pure pigeons) as such as all the belgian past masters used to borrow or buy from the top flyers of their era. And still do today. The best birds are the first one back every week regardless of strain.