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stephen steyert
July 8, 2007, 8:24am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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regardless how much fresh air pigeon have they can still get 'respiritory infections'

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open fronted pigeon loft plenty of fresh air its free and is natures own natural cure  




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jimmy white
July 8, 2007, 7:55pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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plenty fresh air sure helps prevention , but also a clean,dry  loft ,,   as a last resort use tylan [antibiotic ] i,e vets advice
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David Home
July 8, 2007, 8:23pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Tylan should be used at the rate of 1g per litre of water.  You should mix it with warm water first before adding it to the drinker.It is marketed by a company called Elanco, and is only available through your vet. I found it to be the most effective product against respiratory infections.


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July 8, 2007, 8:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from David Home
Tylan should be used at the rate of 1g per litre of water.  You should mix it with warm water first before adding it to the drinker.It is marketed by a company called Elanco, and is only available through your vet. I found it to be the most effective product against respiratory infections.


Thats the most informitive post I have heard on tylan.

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July 8, 2007, 9:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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most phesant /turkey pellets have it in them now as keepers dont have acsess to tylan without vet prescription check the label
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most phesant /turkey pellets have it in them now as keepers dont have acsess to tylan without vet prescription check the label


So would feeding turkey pellets often do damage, they contain antibiotics aswell I think
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Quoted from David Home
Tylan should be used at the rate of 1g per litre of water.  You should mix it with warm water first before adding it to the drinker.It is marketed by a company called Elanco, and is only available through your vet. I found it to be the most effective product against respiratory infections.


with due respect david i think this is a high dose 1gm per litre [i think for larger animals such as calfs pigs etc ,] i had been advised by vet  to use 0.5 g per litre for pigeons for 5 days ,,,,, maybe just check ?  jimmy
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Rose
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Years ago when i first started with birds never remember having to treat like we do now whats changed so much over the years
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open fronted pigeon loft plenty of fresh air its free and is natures own natural cure  


Was there a man in Lanarkshire named Harwood who kept his birds in almost completely open lofts with wire all round, were his birds kept in these nearly all year round  and raced to the open  style lofts?  did he ever have many health problems with his birds ?,
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Our birds came from a loft like that visit it in winter and you may as well been standing out in the middle of the field and yes they were very fit and healthy I think eventually if you dont treat you go back to survival of the fitest but most wont wait that long to get those birds
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with due respect david i think this is a high dose 1gm per litre [i think for larger animals such as calfs pigs etc ,] i had been advised by vet  to use 0.5 g per litre for pigeons for 5 days ,,,,, maybe just check ?  jimmy


1g per litre should be given for no more than 3 days Jimmy. It also would depend on what time of the season you would be treating the birds.   i.e water consumption of the birds.


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john harwood keeps and races y/b in an aviery only after racings over do they get into the loft
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July 17, 2007, 7:25am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Rose
Years ago when i first started with birds never remember having to treat like we do now whats changed so much over the years


peoples attitude thats what changed rose they pay big bucks for pigeons and think cause they payed dear for them they are good pigeons ,todays pigeon fanciers would never survive racing against some of the really old times ,adams ,krkpatrick ,logan ,horsburgh ,etc list is endless these people were ruthless when it came to selection of breeding stock etc and no molly coddling either  
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Rose you say what has changed over the years, It should be what has not changed
Most lofts are overcrowded, and too closed in with the failacy that widowhood Cocks must not get an abundance of fresh air,  If a fancier races natural a lot have too many pairs in a section hence less air space per pigeon
Young Birds are Bred by the boat load and each round the parents breed the young birds get weaker simple reason the parents get no break hence losses are higher so more are bred to compensate plus many more things but these few come to mind as i write
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Rose you say what has changed over the years, It should be what has not changed
Most lofts are overcrowded, and too closed in with the failacy that widowhood Cocks must not get an abundance of fresh air,  If a fancier races natural a lot have too many pairs in a section hence less air space per pigeon
Young Birds are Bred by the boat load and each round the parents breed the young birds get weaker simple reason the parents get no break hence losses are higher so more are bred to compensate plus many more things but these few come to mind as i write
Steve



couldn't agree more fresh air is the best thing a bird can have
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Rose you say what has changed over the years, It should be what has not changed
Most lofts are overcrowded, and too closed in with the failacy that widowhood Cocks must not get an abundance of fresh air,  If a fancier races natural a lot have too many pairs in a section hence less air space per pigeon
Young Birds are Bred by the boat load and each round the parents breed the young birds get weaker simple reason the parents get no break hence losses are higher so more are bred to compensate plus many more things but these few come to mind as i write
Steve


Yes I have noticed how shut up a lot of lofts are now  we have always kept to having our lofts as open as possible I think having a well ventilated loft is very important  and plenty of room for the birds   we only breed a very small team of ybs which doesnt seem to make any difference as we seem to have very few losses that way
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yes i think fanciers tend to forget that airspace is an important factor ,, i note in roses last post that she "only breeds a small team" is part of the answer ,as we tend to forget that at the one time ,when a pair have two big ybs in the nest ,theres double the amount of birds in that loft, so by having less birds and more airspace ,im sure the birds would be far more contented= less stress=less desease ,,and not only that ,you only tend to keep the best this way
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Quoted from David Home


1g per litre should be given for no more than 3 days Jimmy. It also would depend on what time of the season you would be treating the birds.   i.e water consumption of the birds.


i understand your post better now david , i was under the impression this doze was for 5 days albeit the reason i thought it was to high a doze ,,,better explained on your second post
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today one of my birds is sneezing/wheezing what should i do? what is the best respritory cure, i read on another thread about a well vented loft is good but how can you tell if it is, i have a 20ft loft and at the front it is dowled all the way across and its 3 foot down and plety of air gets in do i need to do it different
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If it is a one off mild case you could isolate the bird and try abit of TCP in the water,remember with your ventilation clean air needs to come in at the bottom at one end and drag dirty air across the loft  to escape at the top at the other end,will pm you
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